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View Seth's Profile Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 22 Jan 16 1.34am Send a Private Message to Seth Add Seth as a friend

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In post office today 2 lads came in from Kosovo with 2 envelopes of £20 notes doing a money transfer back to there homeland 1 stayed 1 went out postmistress asked questions ie where he lived work his mate couldn't answer her she told him to tell friend to come back in he never other lad told her where he lived and his job as a cleaner
£4300 he sent back .....w***ers


Yep a foreign worker is a poor economic substitute for a British one.

The pro-immigration surveys that your typical pro economic immigrant lefty quotes at you don't of course take account of the significant amount of money that is sent out of this country.

A working class British worker is far less likely to do that.

The Post Office is an agent for Moneygram, a money transfer system very similar to Western Union.

Until not so long ago I was a relief manager for the Post Office, working in many Post Offices large and small across the south of England.

In virtually all of those offices, foreigners came in and transferred cash abroad, mainly to eastern Europe and Africa. The total amount of cash transferred out of the country each week at the vast majority of the Post Offices was a five figure sum.

There are 11,500 Post Offices in the UK. Say each office averaged £10,000 of outgoing international money transfers a week (small village offices would take a lot less, but town centre offices would take considerably more), that's £115 million a week, that's £5.98 billion a year leaving the country.

That is just by using the Post Office. There will obviously be more sent via non Post Office based Moneygram agents and also via Western Union.

I think "significant" doesn't quite describe how much money is leaving the UK!

By the way, the number of incoming Moneygram transactions were negligible, we would go weeks without seeing one...

Why shouldn't people who earn money here have the right to send it wherever in the world they want to? Isn't it their hard-earned cash to do what they like with? Do Brits working abroad not send money back to the UK for their families?

Transactions like these allow many people in less developed countries to feed their kids and send them to school, and is a valid redistribution of wealth from rich counties like ours to people in greater need.

 


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Quote nickgusset at 22 Jan 2016 12.09am

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Quote radsyrendot at 24 Aug 2015 5.59pm

In post office today 2 lads came in from Kosovo with 2 envelopes of £20 notes doing a money transfer back to there homeland 1 stayed 1 went out postmistress asked questions ie where he lived work his mate couldn't answer her she told him to tell friend to come back in he never other lad told her where he lived and his job as a cleaner
£4300 he sent back .....w***ers


Yep a foreign worker is a poor economic substitute for a British one.

The pro-immigration surveys that your typical pro economic immigrant lefty quotes at you don't of course take account of the significant amount of money that is sent out of this country.

A working class British worker is far less likely to do that.

The Post Office is an agent for Moneygram, a money transfer system very similar to Western Union.

Until not so long ago I was a relief manager for the Post Office, working in many Post Offices large and small across the south of England.

In virtually all of those offices, foreigners came in and transferred cash abroad, mainly to eastern Europe and Africa. The total amount of cash transferred out of the country each week at the vast majority of the Post Offices was a five figure sum.

There are 11,500 Post Offices in the UK. Say each office averaged £10,000 of outgoing international money transfers a week (small village offices would take a lot less, but town centre offices would take considerably more), that's £115 million a week, that's £5.98 billion a year leaving the country.

That is just by using the Post Office. There will obviously be more sent via non Post Office based Moneygram agents and also via Western Union.

I think "significant" doesn't quite describe how much money is leaving the UK!

By the way, the number of incoming Moneygram transactions were negligible, we would go weeks without seeing one...


It's not great, perhaps there should be a cap.

Not good that profits from many of our privatised industries and services also go abroad.


Why should there be a cap? If people have earned money here they have the right to send it wherever they want.

More legitimate is the question of big companies evading tax or siphoning profits overseas, with a nod and a wink from Osborne and his chums in the city. It's not Polish cleaners or Indian nurses sending a few quid home that's the problem, it's the corporate fat cats. And they're taking the p*ss.

 


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suicideatselhurst Flag crawley 22 Jan 16 5.17am

Quote Seth at 22 Jan 2016 1.40am

Quote nickgusset at 22 Jan 2016 12.09am

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Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Aug 2015 6.12pm

Quote radsyrendot at 24 Aug 2015 5.59pm

In post office today 2 lads came in from Kosovo with 2 envelopes of £20 notes doing a money transfer back to there homeland 1 stayed 1 went out postmistress asked questions ie where he lived work his mate couldn't answer her she told him to tell friend to come back in he never other lad told her where he lived and his job as a cleaner
£4300 he sent back .....w***ers


Yep a foreign worker is a poor economic substitute for a British one.

The pro-immigration surveys that your typical pro economic immigrant lefty quotes at you don't of course take account of the significant amount of money that is sent out of this country.

A working class British worker is far less likely to do that.

The Post Office is an agent for Moneygram, a money transfer system very similar to Western Union.

Until not so long ago I was a relief manager for the Post Office, working in many Post Offices large and small across the south of England.

In virtually all of those offices, foreigners came in and transferred cash abroad, mainly to eastern Europe and Africa. The total amount of cash transferred out of the country each week at the vast majority of the Post Offices was a five figure sum.

There are 11,500 Post Offices in the UK. Say each office averaged £10,000 of outgoing international money transfers a week (small village offices would take a lot less, but town centre offices would take considerably more), that's £115 million a week, that's £5.98 billion a year leaving the country.

That is just by using the Post Office. There will obviously be more sent via non Post Office based Moneygram agents and also via Western Union.

I think "significant" doesn't quite describe how much money is leaving the UK!

By the way, the number of incoming Moneygram transactions were negligible, we would go weeks without seeing one...


It's not great, perhaps there should be a cap.

Not good that profits from many of our privatised industries and services also go abroad.


Why should there be a cap? If people have earned money here they have the right to send it wherever they want.

More legitimate is the question of big companies evading tax or siphoning profits overseas, with a nod and a wink from Osborne and his chums in the city. It's not Polish cleaners or Indian nurses sending a few quid home that's the problem, it's the corporate fat cats. And they're taking the p*ss.


Up to a point seth yes, but if it is taxable income that is not being taxed and sent out of the country, then it doesn't matter if its a Polish cleaner, Indian nurse or corporate fat cat, Its the British economy that is losing out.

 


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Hoof Hearted 22 Jan 16 10.09am

Quote suicideatselhurst at 22 Jan 2016 5.17am

Quote Seth at 22 Jan 2016 1.40am

Quote nickgusset at 22 Jan 2016 12.09am

Quote nhp61 at 22 Jan 2016 12.00am

Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Aug 2015 6.12pm

Quote radsyrendot at 24 Aug 2015 5.59pm

In post office today 2 lads came in from Kosovo with 2 envelopes of £20 notes doing a money transfer back to there homeland 1 stayed 1 went out postmistress asked questions ie where he lived work his mate couldn't answer her she told him to tell friend to come back in he never other lad told her where he lived and his job as a cleaner
£4300 he sent back .....w***ers


Yep a foreign worker is a poor economic substitute for a British one.

The pro-immigration surveys that your typical pro economic immigrant lefty quotes at you don't of course take account of the significant amount of money that is sent out of this country.

A working class British worker is far less likely to do that.

The Post Office is an agent for Moneygram, a money transfer system very similar to Western Union.

Until not so long ago I was a relief manager for the Post Office, working in many Post Offices large and small across the south of England.

In virtually all of those offices, foreigners came in and transferred cash abroad, mainly to eastern Europe and Africa. The total amount of cash transferred out of the country each week at the vast majority of the Post Offices was a five figure sum.

There are 11,500 Post Offices in the UK. Say each office averaged £10,000 of outgoing international money transfers a week (small village offices would take a lot less, but town centre offices would take considerably more), that's £115 million a week, that's £5.98 billion a year leaving the country.

That is just by using the Post Office. There will obviously be more sent via non Post Office based Moneygram agents and also via Western Union.

I think "significant" doesn't quite describe how much money is leaving the UK!

By the way, the number of incoming Moneygram transactions were negligible, we would go weeks without seeing one...


It's not great, perhaps there should be a cap.

Not good that profits from many of our privatised industries and services also go abroad.


Why should there be a cap? If people have earned money here they have the right to send it wherever they want.

More legitimate is the question of big companies evading tax or siphoning profits overseas, with a nod and a wink from Osborne and his chums in the city. It's not Polish cleaners or Indian nurses sending a few quid home that's the problem, it's the corporate fat cats. And they're taking the p*ss.


Up to a point seth yes, but if it is taxable income that is not being taxed and sent out of the country, then it doesn't matter if its a Polish cleaner, Indian nurse or corporate fat cat, Its the British economy that is losing out.


THe fact that the story above said that the overseas transaction was in cash - and not bank transfer suggests that it is almost certainly untaxed income.

I agree also that anybody cheating our system of collecting tax should be brought to book. The estimate of nearly £6Billion for the total of these foreign workers sending cash home is on a par with the likes of Google, Starbucks etc that get away with not paying Corporation tax by creative accounting practices!

 

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Some rubbish written here.

Britain's 'invisible earnings' are what exactly?

How many Brit expats spend long periods working abroad?

And wouldn't you prefer Kosovans to send their hard-earned back than have to support their country's development through other funding.

There is a spine down the middle of Bangla Desh that is relatively wealthy almost exclusively due to the chefs in Britain. Lots of people are setting themselves up homes for their retirement. Tell you what, let's not let them send their money back eh? Then they can be a burden on the British state in their dotage.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 22 Jan 16 10.33am

Quote Mapletree at 22 Jan 2016 10.22am

Some rubbish written here.

Britain's 'invisible earnings' are what exactly?

How many Brit expats spend long periods working abroad?

And wouldn't you prefer Kosovans to send their hard-earned back than have to support their country's development through other funding.

There is a spine down the middle of Bangla Desh that is relatively wealthy almost exclusively due to the chefs in Britain. Lots of people are setting themselves up homes for their retirement. Tell you what, let's not let them send their money back eh? Then they can be a burden on the British state in their dotage.

Quite a few I'd guess. Project I'm on has people working in Romania, Germany, Luxemburg, Germany and the US. When you start to look at the UK oil industry and engineering you see a lot of off shore UK workers etc. Was a time when a lot of builders in the UK were working abroad as well.

Saudi Arabia has a lot of British workers and defence has a lot of overseas commitments through NATO etc.

 


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Hoof Hearted 22 Jan 16 11.11am

Quote Mapletree at 22 Jan 2016 10.22am

Some rubbish written here.

Britain's 'invisible earnings' are what exactly?

How many Brit expats spend long periods working abroad?

And wouldn't you prefer Kosovans to send their hard-earned back than have to support their country's development through other funding.

There is a spine down the middle of Bangla Desh that is relatively wealthy almost exclusively due to the chefs in Britain. Lots of people are setting themselves up homes for their retirement. Tell you what, let's not let them send their money back eh? Then they can be a burden on the British state in their dotage.


 

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Hoof Hearted 22 Jan 16 11.14am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 22 Jan 2016 10.33am

Quote Mapletree at 22 Jan 2016 10.22am

Some rubbish written here.

Britain's 'invisible earnings' are what exactly?

How many Brit expats spend long periods working abroad?

And wouldn't you prefer Kosovans to send their hard-earned back than have to support their country's development through other funding.

There is a spine down the middle of Bangla Desh that is relatively wealthy almost exclusively due to the chefs in Britain. Lots of people are setting themselves up homes for their retirement. Tell you what, let's not let them send their money back eh? Then they can be a burden on the British state in their dotage.

Quite a few I'd guess. Project I'm on has people working in Romania, Germany, Luxemburg, Germany and the US. When you start to look at the UK oil industry and engineering you see a lot of off shore UK workers etc. Was a time when a lot of builders in the UK were working abroad as well.

Saudi Arabia has a lot of British workers and defence has a lot of overseas commitments through NATO etc.


I doubt that any of them are paid in cash and send it home to Ethel and the kids via the Post Office or Western Union.

 

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View Seth's Profile Seth Flag On a pale blue dot 23 Jan 16 11.58am Send a Private Message to Seth Add Seth as a friend

Quote suicideatselhurst at 22 Jan 2016 5.17am

Quote Seth at 22 Jan 2016 1.40am

Quote nickgusset at 22 Jan 2016 12.09am

Quote nhp61 at 22 Jan 2016 12.00am

Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Aug 2015 6.12pm

Quote radsyrendot at 24 Aug 2015 5.59pm

In post office today 2 lads came in from Kosovo with 2 envelopes of £20 notes doing a money transfer back to there homeland 1 stayed 1 went out postmistress asked questions ie where he lived work his mate couldn't answer her she told him to tell friend to come back in he never other lad told her where he lived and his job as a cleaner
£4300 he sent back .....w***ers


Yep a foreign worker is a poor economic substitute for a British one.

The pro-immigration surveys that your typical pro economic immigrant lefty quotes at you don't of course take account of the significant amount of money that is sent out of this country.

A working class British worker is far less likely to do that.

The Post Office is an agent for Moneygram, a money transfer system very similar to Western Union.

Until not so long ago I was a relief manager for the Post Office, working in many Post Offices large and small across the south of England.

In virtually all of those offices, foreigners came in and transferred cash abroad, mainly to eastern Europe and Africa. The total amount of cash transferred out of the country each week at the vast majority of the Post Offices was a five figure sum.

There are 11,500 Post Offices in the UK. Say each office averaged £10,000 of outgoing international money transfers a week (small village offices would take a lot less, but town centre offices would take considerably more), that's £115 million a week, that's £5.98 billion a year leaving the country.

That is just by using the Post Office. There will obviously be more sent via non Post Office based Moneygram agents and also via Western Union.

I think "significant" doesn't quite describe how much money is leaving the UK!

By the way, the number of incoming Moneygram transactions were negligible, we would go weeks without seeing one...


It's not great, perhaps there should be a cap.

Not good that profits from many of our privatised industries and services also go abroad.


Why should there be a cap? If people have earned money here they have the right to send it wherever they want.

More legitimate is the question of big companies evading tax or siphoning profits overseas, with a nod and a wink from Osborne and his chums in the city. It's not Polish cleaners or Indian nurses sending a few quid home that's the problem, it's the corporate fat cats. And they're taking the p*ss.


Up to a point seth yes, but if it is taxable income that is not being taxed and sent out of the country, then it doesn't matter if its a Polish cleaner, Indian nurse or corporate fat cat, Its the British economy that is losing out.

Well then it's the government's fault for not closing the loopholes that allow people to evade tax. I bet Google, Facebook, Apple and all the rest dodge way more tax than a few thousand waiters or fruit pickers, who just want to support their families overseas.

 


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Quote Hoof Hearted at 22 Jan 2016 11.14am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 22 Jan 2016 10.33am

Quote Mapletree at 22 Jan 2016 10.22am

Some rubbish written here.

Britain's 'invisible earnings' are what exactly?

How many Brit expats spend long periods working abroad?

And wouldn't you prefer Kosovans to send their hard-earned back than have to support their country's development through other funding.

There is a spine down the middle of Bangla Desh that is relatively wealthy almost exclusively due to the chefs in Britain. Lots of people are setting themselves up homes for their retirement. Tell you what, let's not let them send their money back eh? Then they can be a burden on the British state in their dotage.

Quite a few I'd guess. Project I'm on has people working in Romania, Germany, Luxemburg, Germany and the US. When you start to look at the UK oil industry and engineering you see a lot of off shore UK workers etc. Was a time when a lot of builders in the UK were working abroad as well.

Saudi Arabia has a lot of British workers and defence has a lot of overseas commitments through NATO etc.


I doubt that any of them are paid in cash and send it home to Ethel and the kids via the Post Office or Western Union.


I know people working in UAE who get extremely well paid and pay no tax on that income, as long as they stay for 2+ years. Eventually they'll come home and will be very well off indeed.

 


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Quote Seth at 23 Jan 2016 12.00pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 22 Jan 2016 11.14am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 22 Jan 2016 10.33am

Quote Mapletree at 22 Jan 2016 10.22am

Some rubbish written here.

Britain's 'invisible earnings' are what exactly?

How many Brit expats spend long periods working abroad?

And wouldn't you prefer Kosovans to send their hard-earned back than have to support their country's development through other funding.

There is a spine down the middle of Bangla Desh that is relatively wealthy almost exclusively due to the chefs in Britain. Lots of people are setting themselves up homes for their retirement. Tell you what, let's not let them send their money back eh? Then they can be a burden on the British state in their dotage.

Quite a few I'd guess. Project I'm on has people working in Romania, Germany, Luxemburg, Germany and the US. When you start to look at the UK oil industry and engineering you see a lot of off shore UK workers etc. Was a time when a lot of builders in the UK were working abroad as well.

Saudi Arabia has a lot of British workers and defence has a lot of overseas commitments through NATO etc.


I doubt that any of them are paid in cash and send it home to Ethel and the kids via the Post Office or Western Union.


I know people working in UAE who get extremely well paid and pay no tax on that income, as long as they stay for 2+ years. Eventually they'll come home and will be very well off indeed.


And why shouldn't they? That's the law/tax situation in UAE, ie you don't pay tax, the situation in UK is that you do...so ANYONE who avoids tax should be brought to book for it including Starbuck's, Vodafone and Pete the polish builder

 

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Hoof Hearted 23 Jan 16 12.29pm

Quote the silurian at 23 Jan 2016 12.23pm

Quote Seth at 23 Jan 2016 12.00pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 22 Jan 2016 11.14am

Quote jamiemartin721 at 22 Jan 2016 10.33am

Quote Mapletree at 22 Jan 2016 10.22am

Some rubbish written here.

Britain's 'invisible earnings' are what exactly?

How many Brit expats spend long periods working abroad?

And wouldn't you prefer Kosovans to send their hard-earned back than have to support their country's development through other funding.

There is a spine down the middle of Bangla Desh that is relatively wealthy almost exclusively due to the chefs in Britain. Lots of people are setting themselves up homes for their retirement. Tell you what, let's not let them send their money back eh? Then they can be a burden on the British state in their dotage.

Quite a few I'd guess. Project I'm on has people working in Romania, Germany, Luxemburg, Germany and the US. When you start to look at the UK oil industry and engineering you see a lot of off shore UK workers etc. Was a time when a lot of builders in the UK were working abroad as well.

Saudi Arabia has a lot of British workers and defence has a lot of overseas commitments through NATO etc.


I doubt that any of them are paid in cash and send it home to Ethel and the kids via the Post Office or Western Union.


I know people working in UAE who get extremely well paid and pay no tax on that income, as long as they stay for 2+ years. Eventually they'll come home and will be very well off indeed.


And why shouldn't they? That's the law/tax situation in UAE, ie you don't pay tax, the situation in UK is that you do...so ANYONE who avoids tax should be brought to book for it including Starbuck's, Vodafone and Pete the polish builder


Cannot argue with anything you've said there mate.

 

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