I'm not in a position to watch that video link and, TBH, won't waste my time.

My only question is:

Since when did "liberal" become co-opted into a word used to disparage or insult?

Fox and Sky would be so proud of you.

Oh and for the record, don't confuse left-wing economic socialist types (I'm proud to be one) with social liberals. The social polices that so many people are in uproar about are all courtesy of Blair and Cameron - both fully paid up (or paid for) advocates of cheap labour and big corporate profits. Neither of them can in any way be thought of as "left wing".

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Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Brilliant.

And of course you no doubt approve of some of those poor desperate grief stricken people easing their pain by harassing local children because they don't measure up to their loony religious ideals.

No. I just said it's them that should be ashamed, didn't I?

Do try to not let your stance affect your reading ability.

Big chest and massive boobs

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One less discussed aspect of this 'migrant' debate is that we don't fully understand the demographics of Syria. I doubt many British have ever been or want to go to Syria, therefore we have very little understanding of the people, the regional differences in country of the people and the local peccadillos of residents of different parts of Syria.

Therefore, we could have, unwittingly, let in 2,000 People who are the Syrian equivalent of Scousers or the Welsh or Scot's.

How would you feel if 2,000 Scousers were dumped in your village? Or 2,000 phlegm covered weirdos from the valleys? Or a bunch of ginger whingers who demand the f***ing World, fairness and bunch of other things they are their f***ing birthright, despite them not having the dash to pay for it?

Therefore, imagine if the Syrians are using this to dump their version of Scousers on us? They must be rolling on the floor laughing that we have taken them in.

I therefore suggest that on a quid pro quo basis, I don't mind a few more Syrians, if we can give them in return, 20,000 assorted Bin Dippers, sheep shaggers and Jocks. Reckon integrating them into our society will be a lot easier than trying to educate the Welsh or get the Scot's to stop being stroppy, angry drunken b******s.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

But I seriously doubt that any of them will be ashamed at all. They believe that their ideology is the "right" one. They probably also believe that it is their right to come to Europe and that European "charity" is of little importance.
The Jews were very grateful when they got Israel weren't they.
Let's not let our desperate need to feel morally superior cloud reality eh Kermy.

Everyone believes that their ideology is the right one, that's the problem of ideology in a nutshell. Ironically, liberalism probably is the least ideological of political movements in that its basis lies in critical analysis and pragmatism. Some liberal movements have become idealistic in their outlook, but for the most part the basis of liberalism is in compromise and rational assessment. Sadly increasingly Liberal movements have increased their share of the shrill idealists who have forgotten that issues have more than their surface dimensions (i.e. an point isn't racist unless its solely attributing a fact of behaviour to race).

Problem is opportunists who utilise political agendas to their own career, progression and income, exist in every spectrum.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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