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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 07 Oct 15 11.09pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Quote Stuk at 22 Sep 2015 1.31pm

They're rumoured to be lined up for a 6-18bn dollar fine. You couldn't exclude them from the market as that would also f*** over: employees, supply chains, dealers, garages, owners etc.

Their CEO in America is probably s***ting himself.


What's going to really hurt them is the lawsuits. They sold these diesels on being clean(ish) and economical without giving up power. But all they did was rig the cars for the tests, and the rest of the time they're belching multiples of the maximum allowable emissions in many jurisdictions.

What can VW do to fix this? They can issue a recall and change the software so that the cars now run at the required emission levels; but that's going to kill the performance that you paid a premium to get. That would not cut it for me; I would argue that I'd been induced into the contract by fraudulent misrepresentations, and I'd demand a full refund of the original purchase price...I believe I'd get it too.

Now multiply that by the 11 million cars that VW say are impacted by this...

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 07 Oct 15 11.28pm

Good old market forces. Profit before everything else.

 

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If you want clean emissions purchase a Bicycle!!

 


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View daven's Profile daven Flag Hailsham 08 Oct 15 1.52am Send a Private Message to daven Add daven as a friend

It just needs one test case to be found against vw and they are in trouble.When spending a large amount of money most people look into every aspect.Emissions are among the top factors when choosing a vehicle. It is inevitable that people have chosen a vw over other makes because of its low Emissions ,this is fraud .When cars are retested they could be in the wrong road tax band.This is not going g to go away with a simple recall.

 

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View AussiePalace's Profile AussiePalace Flag Melbourne, Australia 08 Oct 15 4.58am Send a Private Message to AussiePalace Add AussiePalace as a friend

Found out this morning, my car is on the list for re-call.

Hopefully I'll get a shiny new vehicle.

I'll likely get a two year wait to get it "fixed..."

 


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Quote daven at 08 Oct 2015 1.52am

It just needs one test case to be found against vw and they are in trouble.When spending a large amount of money most people look into every aspect.Emissions are among the top factors when choosing a vehicle. It is inevitable that people have chosen a vw over other makes because of its low Emissions ,this is fraud .When cars are retested they could be in the wrong road tax band.This is not going g to go away with a simple recall.

I very much doubt whether that is true for the majority of people although Green Party members might be the exception.

People have a range of different priorities when buying a car with looks, performance and economy having a lot of importance and handling and comfort being up their too but I doubt whether the amount of NOX given out is considered at all and I doubt whether most owners would even know anything about the legal levels for NOX emissions or how much their car was supposed to be emitting


 

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Corporate governance in Germany needs a jolly good shake up. This plus earlier Bribery issues at VW, Deutsche Bank is so under capitalised that it's almost funny.

 

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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 08 Oct 15 8.08am

Quote chris123 at 08 Oct 2015 7.11am

Corporate governance in Germany needs a jolly good shake up. This plus earlier Bribery issues at VW, Deutsche Bank is so under capitalised that it's almost funny.

Where is Albert Speer when you need him.

 


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Quote chris123 at 08 Oct 2015 7.11am

Corporate governance in Germany needs a jolly good shake up. This plus earlier Bribery issues at VW, Deutsche Bank is so under capitalised that it's almost funny.


I work for a German company and the compliance hoops we have to jump through are ludicrous

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

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Hoof Hearted 08 Oct 15 12.18pm

This episode has got me thinking..........

How come the Germans always beat us at penalty shootouts?

I'll bet they've been cheating at that too!

 

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Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 08 Oct 2015 8.11am

Quote chris123 at 08 Oct 2015 7.11am

Corporate governance in Germany needs a jolly good shake up. This plus earlier Bribery issues at VW, Deutsche Bank is so under capitalised that it's almost funny.


I work for a German company and the compliance hoops we have to jump through are ludicrous


Compliance has nothing to do with Corporate Governance.

 

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Quote chris123 at 08 Oct 2015 12.21pm

Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 08 Oct 2015 8.11am

Quote chris123 at 08 Oct 2015 7.11am

Corporate governance in Germany needs a jolly good shake up. This plus earlier Bribery issues at VW, Deutsche Bank is so under capitalised that it's almost funny.


I work for a German company and the compliance hoops we have to jump through are ludicrous


Compliance has nothing to do with Corporate Governance.

Not completely accurate, Compliance is a tool that is used as part of ensuring Corporate Governance

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

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