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A young single Syria man.

1) Flee to Europe to gain a home, left wing sympathy....'oh you brave hero'.....and eventually receive a job in a country you regard as your meal ticket. (in the meantime disadvantaging working class British or other Europeans, whose allegiance is to their own country....A job and home should be the birth right of British citizens/subjects in front of foreigners.

Second option:

Stand and fight for your country. Stand and fight against IS......And receive.....Absolutely nothing.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Sep 2015 7.33pm)

 


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For the record, Poland has said it will take its quota. Despite public opinion fairly opposed.

Hungary, Czech Rep and co have refused.

Edited by Kosowski (23 Sep 2015 7.38pm)

 


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Quote Stirlingsays at 23 Sep 2015 7.29pm

A young single Syria man.

1) Flee to Europe to gain a home, left wing sympathy....'oh you brave hero'.....and eventually receive a job in a country you regard as your meal ticket. (in the meantime disadvantaging working class British or other Europeans, whose allegiance is to their own country....A job and home should be the birth right of British citizens/subjects in front of foreigners.

Second option:

Stand and fight for your country. Stand and fight against IS......And receive.....Absolutely nothing.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Sep 2015 7.33pm)


There is no country to fight for. Syria as it was is deaded. They would be fighting and dying for things they don't believe in.

 


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Quote Kermit8 at 23 Sep 2015 7.38pm

There is no country to fight for. Syria as it was is deaded. They would be fighting and dying for things they don't believe in.

That's pure nonsense. A country is made up of the people within it who are willing to fight for it.

If you added together the modern British left actually prepared to fight for something you wouldn't have a number big enough to take your local park.

Always prepared to hide behind those who actually fight for things.....happy to take the benefits.

 


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Quote Kermit8 at 23 Sep 2015 7.38pm

There is no country to fight for. Syria as it was is deaded. They would be fighting and dying for things they don't believe in.

That's pure nonsense. A country is made up of the people within it who are willing to fight for it.

If you added together the modern British left actually prepared to fight for something you wouldn't have a number big enough to take your local park.

Always prepared to hide behind those who actually fight for things.....happy to take the benefits.


They would either be fighting for the incumbent Alawite minority who they tried to oust or extreme factions whom they despise for also wrecking their lives or some other ragtail bunch.

You perception of a very complicated situation is ridiculously simplistic.

btw they did rise up four years ago. They took on the police and army state. incredibly brave. Something i can't see the modern Right ever having the balls to do if our establishment needed correction. Nah, that would be left to those of a revolting nature.

 


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Quote Stirlingsays at 23 Sep 2015 7.29pm

A young single Syria man.

1) Flee to Europe to gain a home, left wing sympathy....'oh you brave hero'.....and eventually receive a job in a country you regard as your meal ticket. (in the meantime disadvantaging working class British or other Europeans, whose allegiance is to their own country....A job and home should be the birth right of British citizens/subjects in front of foreigners.

Second option:

Stand and fight for your country. Stand and fight against IS......And receive.....Absolutely nothing.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Sep 2015 7.33pm)

This is about real life, not your preferences on dating websites. Just a joke.

Half of the entire country has left over the past few years. Are you suggesting that they are all simply 'cowards' or could it be that the situation is actually a bit more complex than you imagine it to be while lounging on a sofa?

You create a version of these people, where they are either only out for all they can get while practically laughing at the country that takes them in, or 'standing and fighting against IS' as if it's as simple as that. Hopefully you'll end up with some of these men living next door to you.


Edited by oldcodger (23 Sep 2015 11.00pm)

 

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Quote Kermit8 at 23 Sep 2015 7.38pm

There is no country to fight for. Syria as it was is deaded. They would be fighting and dying for things they don't believe in.

That's pure nonsense. A country is made up of the people within it who are willing to fight for it.

If you added together the modern British left actually prepared to fight for something you wouldn't have a number big enough to take your local park.

Always prepared to hide behind those who actually fight for things.....happy to take the benefits.

Political allegiance it hardly the only measure of who is 'prepared to fight for something'.

 

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Quote Kermit8 at 23 Sep 2015 9.03pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 23 Sep 2015 7.42pm

Quote Kermit8 at 23 Sep 2015 7.38pm

There is no country to fight for. Syria as it was is deaded. They would be fighting and dying for things they don't believe in.

That's pure nonsense. A country is made up of the people within it who are willing to fight for it.

If you added together the modern British left actually prepared to fight for something you wouldn't have a number big enough to take your local park.

Always prepared to hide behind those who actually fight for things.....happy to take the benefits.


They would either be fighting for the incumbent Alawite minority who they tried to oust or extreme factions whom they despise for also wrecking their lives or some other ragtail bunch.

You perception of a very complicated situation is ridiculously simplistic.

btw they did rise up four years ago. They took on the police and army state. incredibly brave. Something i can't see the modern Right ever having the balls to do if our establishment needed correction. Nah, that would be left to those of a revolting nature.

I said modern British left......read the post Kermy.

So the Kurds are extreme are they? They have different fractions which includes Alawites fighting for them. The Free Syria Army also are composed of many different fractions. People like to concentrate on the more radical elements but there are also moderate groups within them. Young Syrian men could and should join either.

Rather than me being simplistic you simply don't know enough. I've followed this conflict quite closely actually and researched quite a bit.

Also, by the way, you characterizing the uprising against Assad as 'left' is ridiculous. It wasn't left or right or anything else....It was composed of all political components, moderates and extremists......Both of which fight Assad now.

Incredly simplistic of you Kermy.

Like I said.....Flee and the left want to give you a home and a job and a western lifestyle.

Stand and fight and the left offer you nothing.

Says it all really.

 


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Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Sep 2015 6.56am

Quote Kermit8 at 23 Sep 2015 9.03pm

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Quote Kermit8 at 23 Sep 2015 7.38pm

There is no country to fight for. Syria as it was is deaded. They would be fighting and dying for things they don't believe in.

That's pure nonsense. A country is made up of the people within it who are willing to fight for it.

If you added together the modern British left actually prepared to fight for something you wouldn't have a number big enough to take your local park.

Always prepared to hide behind those who actually fight for things.....happy to take the benefits.


They would either be fighting for the incumbent Alawite minority who they tried to oust or extreme factions whom they despise for also wrecking their lives or some other ragtail bunch.

You perception of a very complicated situation is ridiculously simplistic.

btw they did rise up four years ago. They took on the police and army state. incredibly brave. Something i can't see the modern Right ever having the balls to do if our establishment needed correction. Nah, that would be left to those of a revolting nature.

I said modern British left......read the post Kermy.

So the Kurds are extreme are they? They have different fractions which includes Alawites fighting for them. The Free Syria Army also are composed of many different fractions. People like to concentrate on the more radical elements but there are also moderate groups within them. Young Syrian men could and should join either.

Rather than me being simplistic you simply don't know enough. I've followed this conflict quite closely actually and researched quite a bit.

Also, by the way, you characterizing the uprising against Assad as 'left' is ridiculous. It wasn't left or right or anything else....It was composed of all political components, moderates and extremists......Both of which fight Assad now.

Incredly simplistic of you Kermy.

Like I said.....Flee and the left want to give you a home and a job and a western lifestyle.

Stand and fight and the left offer you nothing.

Says it all really.


Are they proper, improper or mixed fractions?

 

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Quote oldcodger at 23 Sep 2015 10.01pm

This is about real life, not your preferences on dating websites. Just a joke.

Half of the entire country has left over the past few years. Are you suggesting that they are all simply 'cowards' or could it be that the situation is actually a bit more complex than you imagine it to be while lounging on a sofa?

You create a version of these people, where they are either only out for all they can get while practically laughing at the country that takes them in, or 'standing and fighting against IS' as if it's as simple as that. Hopefully you'll end up with some of these men living next door to you.


Edited by oldcodger (23 Sep 2015 11.00pm)

You haven't quite got the pulse on my views.

A percentage of these young Syrian men are cowards yes.......I accept Jamie's point that in some instances practical reasons would mean that anything other than escaping wouldn't be realistic.

But for the majority of them......They are taking the easy way out compared to standing and fighting for their country. I don't want those types here personally.

Like I say.....Flee and the left want to give you a western lifestyle and the same rights and privileges as my son who was born British a year ago. My son won't grow up with a 'mixed' allegiance....No head nods to foreign countries.

Stand and fight and the left and indeed most people......Give you nothing. I sent aid to Kobane and I'm proud of them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Sep 2015 7.07am)

 


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In fact I don't want an extra large body of religious people making a life here if I'm honest. That goes for any religion. I'd prefer this country to increase its secular majority not look to increase it.....Religious families breed more than secular ones.

If I were taking from the camps you'd be getting secularists first and 'cultural' Muslims rather than the Islamic versions of Holy Joes.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Sep 2015 7.10am)

 


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Quote Stirlingsays at 24 Sep 2015 6.56am

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Quote Kermit8 at 23 Sep 2015 7.38pm

There is no country to fight for. Syria as it was is deaded. They would be fighting and dying for things they don't believe in.

That's pure nonsense. A country is made up of the people within it who are willing to fight for it.

If you added together the modern British left actually prepared to fight for something you wouldn't have a number big enough to take your local park.

Always prepared to hide behind those who actually fight for things.....happy to take the benefits.


They would either be fighting for the incumbent Alawite minority who they tried to oust or extreme factions whom they despise for also wrecking their lives or some other ragtail bunch.

You perception of a very complicated situation is ridiculously simplistic.

btw they did rise up four years ago. They took on the police and army state. incredibly brave. Something i can't see the modern Right ever having the balls to do if our establishment needed correction. Nah, that would be left to those of a revolting nature.

I said modern British left......read the post Kermy.

So the Kurds are extreme are they? They have different fractions which includes Alawites fighting for them. The Free Syria Army also are composed of many different fractions. People like to concentrate on the more radical elements but there are also moderate groups within them. Young Syrian men could and should join either.

Rather than me being simplistic you simply don't know enough. I've followed this conflict quite closely actually and researched quite a bit.

Also, by the way, you characterizing the uprising against Assad as 'left' is ridiculous. It wasn't left or right or anything else....It was composed of all political components, moderates and extremists......Both of which fight Assad now.

Incredly simplistic of you Kermy.

Like I said.....Flee and the left want to give you a home and a job and a western lifestyle.

Stand and fight and the left offer you nothing.

Says it all really.


Irrational. The Kurds are defending their homeland. Asking others from many miles away to join them is akin to asking local people from a devastated South London to go to the Outer Hebrides and fight for gaelic speakers defending...the Outer Hebrides.

 


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