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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 26 Sep 15 6.00pm
Quote Kermit8 at 26 Sep 2015 5.55pm Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.48pm Quote sydtheeagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.34pm Quote oldcodger at 26 Sep 2015 5.25pm You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering ISIS rapists, then when millions of them who obviously aren't part of ISIS and are decent sane people try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 5.25pm) Could not agree with you more. It's hard to believe my dad fought in a war against fascism so people like Tom would be at liberty to spout this sort of crap. He'd be turning in his grave if he heard it. Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Sep 2015 5.34pm) What did I say that was crap? Please paste whatever it was What I said was that Muslims are behind most conflicts in the world and that Muslims are also carrying out wide spread rapes. Both are very sad facts i'm afraid. You can disagree all you like. Wrong. The nastier conflicts by numbers killed are in mostly Muslim countries but from the list of ongoing stuff worldwide the majority are not Muslim related. The vast majority of rapes too in the UK are not committed by Muslims. There may be a disproportionality thing happening I don't know. Pleased to rain on your stupid crusade. No crusade Kermit - just speaking with facts. Sorry but i'm not wrong - Muslims are behind most of the worlds conflicts. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 26 Sep 15 6.00pm

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You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering ISIS rapists, then when millions of them who obviously aren't part of ISIS and are decent sane people try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take.

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Could not agree with you more. It's hard to believe my dad fought in a war against fascism so people like Tom would be at liberty to spout this sort of crap. He'd be turning in his grave if he heard it.

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What did I say that was crap?

Please paste whatever it was

What I said was that Muslims are behind most conflicts in the world and that Muslims are also carrying out wide spread rapes. Both are very sad facts i'm afraid. You can disagree all you like.

Wrong. The nastier conflicts by numbers killed are in mostly Muslim countries but from the list of ongoing stuff worldwide the majority are not Muslim related.

The vast majority of rapes too in the UK are not committed by Muslims. There may be a disproportionality thing happening I don't know.

Pleased to rain on your stupid crusade.

No crusade Kermit - just speaking with facts.
Sorry but i'm not wrong - Muslims are behind most of the worlds conflicts.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Kermit8 Hevon 26 Sep 15 6.14pm
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 6.00pm Quote Kermit8 at 26 Sep 2015 5.55pm Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.48pm Quote sydtheeagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.34pm Quote oldcodger at 26 Sep 2015 5.25pm You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering ISIS rapists, then when millions of them who obviously aren't part of ISIS and are decent sane people try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 5.25pm) Could not agree with you more. It's hard to believe my dad fought in a war against fascism so people like Tom would be at liberty to spout this sort of crap. He'd be turning in his grave if he heard it. Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Sep 2015 5.34pm) What did I say that was crap? Please paste whatever it was What I said was that Muslims are behind most conflicts in the world and that Muslims are also carrying out wide spread rapes. Both are very sad facts i'm afraid. You can disagree all you like. Wrong. The nastier conflicts by numbers killed are in mostly Muslim countries but from the list of ongoing stuff worldwide the majority are not Muslim related. The vast majority of rapes too in the UK are not committed by Muslims. There may be a disproportionality thing happening I don't know. Pleased to rain on your stupid crusade. No crusade Kermit - just speaking with facts. Sorry but i'm not wrong - Muslims are behind most of the worlds conflicts. You are wrong Tom. You are just scared of the truth. Research it. There are around 60 armed conflicts ongoing worldwide and less than half involve Muslims and much less than that involve fundamentalism. You can still have your opinions but no need for hysteria. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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What did I say that was crap?

Please paste whatever it was

What I said was that Muslims are behind most conflicts in the world and that Muslims are also carrying out wide spread rapes. Both are very sad facts i'm afraid. You can disagree all you like.

Wrong. The nastier conflicts by numbers killed are in mostly Muslim countries but from the list of ongoing stuff worldwide the majority are not Muslim related.

The vast majority of rapes too in the UK are not committed by Muslims. There may be a disproportionality thing happening I don't know.

Pleased to rain on your stupid crusade.

No crusade Kermit - just speaking with facts.
Sorry but i'm not wrong - Muslims are behind most of the worlds conflicts.

You are wrong Tom. You are just scared of the truth. Research it. There are around 60 armed conflicts ongoing worldwide and less than half involve Muslims and much less than that involve fundamentalism.

You can still have your opinions but no need for hysteria.

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JL85 London,SE9 26 Sep 15 6.22pm
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 6.00pm Quote Kermit8 at 26 Sep 2015 5.55pm Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.48pm Quote sydtheeagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.34pm Quote oldcodger at 26 Sep 2015 5.25pm You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering ISIS rapists, then when millions of them who obviously aren't part of ISIS and are decent sane people try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 5.25pm) Could not agree with you more. It's hard to believe my dad fought in a war against fascism so people like Tom would be at liberty to spout this sort of crap. He'd be turning in his grave if he heard it. Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Sep 2015 5.34pm) What did I say that was crap? Please paste whatever it was What I said was that Muslims are behind most conflicts in the world and that Muslims are also carrying out wide spread rapes. Both are very sad facts i'm afraid. You can disagree all you like. Wrong. The nastier conflicts by numbers killed are in mostly Muslim countries but from the list of ongoing stuff worldwide the majority are not Muslim related. The vast majority of rapes too in the UK are not committed by Muslims. There may be a disproportionality thing happening I don't know. Pleased to rain on your stupid crusade. No crusade Kermit - just speaking with facts. Sorry but i'm not wrong - Muslims are behind most of the worlds conflicts. I'd like to see these facts.
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What did I say that was crap?

Please paste whatever it was

What I said was that Muslims are behind most conflicts in the world and that Muslims are also carrying out wide spread rapes. Both are very sad facts i'm afraid. You can disagree all you like.

Wrong. The nastier conflicts by numbers killed are in mostly Muslim countries but from the list of ongoing stuff worldwide the majority are not Muslim related.

The vast majority of rapes too in the UK are not committed by Muslims. There may be a disproportionality thing happening I don't know.

Pleased to rain on your stupid crusade.

No crusade Kermit - just speaking with facts.
Sorry but i'm not wrong - Muslims are behind most of the worlds conflicts.

I'd like to see these facts.

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sydtheeagle England 26 Sep 15 6.32pm
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.48pm What did I say that was crap? Please paste whatever it was Since you asked: Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 4.30pm I completely saw it as an opportunity for a bit of Muslim bashing. In fact, I think we as the main stream society should do a lot more Muslim bashing, Do you really think my dad and others fought a World War so this kind of thinking could flourish? If the above is not crap then I really don't know what is. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.48pm

What did I say that was crap?

Please paste whatever it was

Since you asked:

Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 4.30pm

I completely saw it as an opportunity for a bit of Muslim bashing. In fact, I think we as the main stream society should do a lot more Muslim bashing,

Do you really think my dad and others fought a World War so this kind of thinking could flourish? If the above is not crap then I really don't know what is.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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Hoof Hearted 26 Sep 15 6.41pm
Quote sydtheeagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.34pm Quote oldcodger at 26 Sep 2015 5.25pm You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering ISIS rapists, then when millions of them who obviously aren't part of ISIS and are decent sane people try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 5.25pm) Could not agree with you more. It's hard to believe my dad fought in a war against fascism so people like Tom would be at liberty to spout this sort of crap. He'd be turning in his grave if he heard it. Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Sep 2015 5.34pm) I think your dad might be ashamed that his son is on a message board defending the utter disrespect of a serving RAF sergeant's right to be treated in hospital wearing his uniform..... if he wasn't then he should be ashamed. Muslims seem to be able to cut off soldier's heads, protest against military parades and now hound serving soldiers getting treated in hospital, but no one is allowed to even raise an eyebrow?
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Hoof Hearted 26 Sep 15 6.41pm

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I think your dad might be ashamed that his son is on a message board defending the utter disrespect of a serving RAF sergeant's right to be treated in hospital wearing his uniform..... if he wasn't then he should be ashamed.

Muslims seem to be able to cut off soldier's heads, protest against military parades and now hound serving soldiers getting treated in hospital, but no one is allowed to even raise an eyebrow?

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JL85 London,SE9 26 Sep 15 6.48pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 26 Sep 2015 6.41pm Quote sydtheeagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.34pm Quote oldcodger at 26 Sep 2015 5.25pm You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering ISIS rapists, then when millions of them who obviously aren't part of ISIS and are decent sane people try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 5.25pm) Could not agree with you more. It's hard to believe my dad fought in a war against fascism so people like Tom would be at liberty to spout this sort of crap. He'd be turning in his grave if he heard it. Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Sep 2015 5.34pm) I think your dad might be ashamed that his son is on a message board defending the utter disrespect of a serving RAF sergeant's right to be treated in hospital wearing his uniform..... if he wasn't then he should be ashamed. Muslims seem to be able to cut off soldier's heads, protest against military parades and now hound serving soldiers getting treated in hospital, but no one is allowed to even raise an eyebrow? No one raised an eyebrow to Lee Rigby's murder? To me, Hoof, it seem like you're complaining about someone being offended...by being offended. This is all a bit sensationalist for me. We've gone from Hospital makes a poor decision on the basis that someone might get offended, to Lee Rigby's murder, all the way up to Rape. All 3 of which have absolutely nothing to do with one another. Edited by JL85 (26 Sep 2015 6.53pm)
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Muslims seem to be able to cut off soldier's heads, protest against military parades and now hound serving soldiers getting treated in hospital, but no one is allowed to even raise an eyebrow?

No one raised an eyebrow to Lee Rigby's murder?

To me, Hoof, it seem like you're complaining about someone being offended...by being offended.

This is all a bit sensationalist for me. We've gone from Hospital makes a poor decision on the basis that someone might get offended, to Lee Rigby's murder, all the way up to Rape. All 3 of which have absolutely nothing to do with one another.

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sydtheeagle England 26 Sep 15 6.54pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 26 Sep 2015 6.41pm I think your dad might be ashamed that his son is on a message board defending the utter disrespect of a serving RAF sergeant's right to be treated in hospital wearing his uniform..... But he was treated in his uniform. No one asked him to take it off. No one is saying otherwise. They merely asked him to sit in an area where they could be certain his uniform would not create trouble. That is something entirely different. You are making things up. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 26 Sep 2015 6.41pm

I think your dad might be ashamed that his son is on a message board defending the utter disrespect of a serving RAF sergeant's right to be treated in hospital wearing his uniform.....

But he was treated in his uniform. No one asked him to take it off. No one is saying otherwise. They merely asked him to sit in an area where they could be certain his uniform would not create trouble. That is something entirely different. You are making things up.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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Matlock matlock Derbyshire 26 Sep 15 6.57pm
This insult makes my blood boil why do we worry about other cultures this is England the home of St George
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matlock Derbyshire 26 Sep 15 6.57pm

This insult makes my blood boil why do we worry about other cultures this is England the home of St George

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oldcodger 26 Sep 15 6.59pm
Quote Hoof Hearted at 26 Sep 2015 6.41pm Quote sydtheeagle at 26 Sep 2015 5.34pm Quote oldcodger at 26 Sep 2015 5.25pm You've got to laugh, some live in this comic book world where all muslims are murdering ISIS rapists, then when millions of them who obviously aren't part of ISIS and are decent sane people try to flee this madness, they are suddenly cowards on the take. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 5.25pm) Could not agree with you more. It's hard to believe my dad fought in a war against fascism so people like Tom would be at liberty to spout this sort of crap. He'd be turning in his grave if he heard it. Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Sep 2015 5.34pm) I think your dad might be ashamed that his son is on a message board defending the utter disrespect of a serving RAF sergeant's right to be treated in hospital wearing his uniform..... if he wasn't then he should be ashamed. Muslims seem to be able to cut off soldier's heads, protest against military parades and now hound serving soldiers getting treated in hospital, but no one is allowed to even raise an eyebrow? You're conjuring up a skewed view then getting angry about it. Again with the 'Muslims seem to' as if they're all doing it, followed by a series of barbaric or disrespectful acts that most people are disgusted by, rather than 'didn't raise an eyebrow'. You latch onto this story here and transform it into some kind of major problem of Muslims hounding soldiers in hospital, which holds no basis in reality. Unless of course an event happening once is the responsibility of millions of people. Edited by oldcodger (26 Sep 2015 7.02pm)
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Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Sep 2015 5.34pm)

Muslims seem to be able to cut off soldier's heads, protest against military parades and now hound serving soldiers getting treated in hospital, but no one is allowed to even raise an eyebrow?

You're conjuring up a skewed view then getting angry about it. Again with the 'Muslims seem to' as if they're all doing it, followed by a series of barbaric or disrespectful acts that most people are disgusted by, rather than 'didn't raise an eyebrow'. You latch onto this story here and transform it into some kind of major problem of Muslims hounding soldiers in hospital, which holds no basis in reality. Unless of course an event happening once is the responsibility of millions of people.

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sydtheeagle England 26 Sep 15 6.59pm
Remember, also, that the hospital staff have a duty of care to EVERYONE in the waiting room, soldiers, Muslims, and innocent bystanders alike. If they believed that trouble may result from two people in fifty on account of one of them wearing a uniform and another reacting badly to it then acting in a way they believe will defuse that trouble and protect the other 48 is a responsible thing to do. The nurse did not behave badly; at very worst she exercised questionable judgment. It seems to me that once again the Mail has published a benign story in an emotive way to stir up its right wing readership. In reality, there isn't a story here at all. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Remember, also, that the hospital staff have a duty of care to EVERYONE in the waiting room, soldiers, Muslims, and innocent bystanders alike. If they believed that trouble may result from two people in fifty on account of one of them wearing a uniform and another reacting badly to it then acting in a way they believe will defuse that trouble and protect the other 48 is a responsible thing to do. The nurse did not behave badly; at very worst she exercised questionable judgment. It seems to me that once again the Mail has published a benign story in an emotive way to stir up its right wing readership. In reality, there isn't a story here at all.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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sydtheeagle England 26 Sep 15 7.03pm
Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 6.00pm Sorry but i'm not wrong - Muslims are behind most of the worlds conflicts. Quite apart from this not being true, insurgents are behind almost all World Conflicts, some of whom happen to be Muslim. I suppose you think in 1939 that Christians were behind the Second World War? Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Quote Tom-the-eagle at 26 Sep 2015 6.00pm

Sorry but i'm not wrong - Muslims are behind most of the worlds conflicts.

Quite apart from this not being true, insurgents are behind almost all World Conflicts, some of whom happen to be Muslim. I suppose you think in 1939 that Christians were behind the Second World War?

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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JL85 London,SE9 26 Sep 15 7.04pm
Quote Matlock at 26 Sep 2015 6.57pm This insult makes my blood boil why do we worry about other cultures this is England the home of St George Born in Syria, of all places. The b******.
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London,SE9 26 Sep 15 7.04pm

Quote Matlock at 26 Sep 2015 6.57pm

This insult makes my blood boil why do we worry about other cultures this is England the home of St George

Born in Syria, of all places. The b******.

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