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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 20 Oct 15 5.00pm
Should have nuked the cnts back in the 70s. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham*
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Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 20 Oct 15 5.00pm

Should have nuked the c*nts back in the 70s.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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sydtheeagle England 20 Oct 15 5.09pm
Quote Stuk at 20 Oct 2015 5.00pm It's nothing to do with free speech, it's the inaccuracy and false attribution. You two have fun w***ing each other off though. What on earth are you going on about? What's inaccurate? When I said I merely posted an article, what was implicit was there was no personal opinion attached. I merely posted an article. Obvious, really, as I simply said "interesting article" -- the only two words of mine in the post. Can't see what's inaccurate about that. And yes, there was an attribution: Charis Changnews.com.au. An Australian news agency for whom Chang is an editorial writer. Doesn't really matter though as the opinion was what was interesting and can be discussed on its merits (or otherwise) regardless of the original source or who wrote it. But if the latter matters to you, the attribution was right there in the first two lines. Your ranting is surreal. Edited by sydtheeagle (20 Oct 2015 5.10pm) Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Quote Stuk at 20 Oct 2015 5.00pm

It's nothing to do with free speech, it's the inaccuracy and false attribution.

You two have fun w***ing each other off though.

What on earth are you going on about?

What's inaccurate? When I said I merely posted an article, what was implicit was there was no personal opinion attached. I merely posted an article. Obvious, really, as I simply said "interesting article" -- the only two words of mine in the post. Can't see what's inaccurate about that.

And yes, there was an attribution: Charis Changnews.com.au. An Australian news agency for whom Chang is an editorial writer. Doesn't really matter though as the opinion was what was interesting and can be discussed on its merits (or otherwise) regardless of the original source or who wrote it. But if the latter matters to you, the attribution was right there in the first two lines.

Your ranting is surreal.

Edited by sydtheeagle (20 Oct 2015 5.10pm)

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Oct 15 5.11pm
I don't want to go all conspiracy theory or anything but - how do we know the US policy (United States) has failed? We don't really know their full intentions. Perhaps they have no interest in peace in the Middle East, or in being the dominant military force, perhaps they just want to manipulate oil prices and manipulate the market for their defence contractors? Perhaps what is going on is exactly what they wanted - or will be? There are a myriad number of things they may have as their strategic goals in the region without telling us about it. From a viewpoint of wanting stability in the region then policies have failed; but there could be an overall policy of undermning the region for other purposes that are not quite clear to the wider world at present. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Oct 15 5.11pm

I don't want to go all conspiracy theory or anything but - how do we know the US policy (United States) has failed?
We don't really know their full intentions.
Perhaps they have no interest in peace in the Middle East, or in being the dominant military force, perhaps they just want to manipulate oil prices and manipulate the market for their defence contractors? Perhaps what is going on is exactly what they wanted - or will be? There are a myriad number of things they may have as their strategic goals in the region without telling us about it.
From a viewpoint of wanting stability in the region then policies have failed; but there could be an overall policy of undermning the region for other purposes that are not quite clear to the wider world at present.

Red and Blue Army!

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sydtheeagle England 20 Oct 15 5.12pm
Quote Stuk at 20 Oct 2015 5.00pm You two have fun w*ing each other off though. Should we choose to do so, at least it'll be abetted by an intelligent discourse. One imagines you specialise in the w*king without the insight, judging on contributions to this thread. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Quote Stuk at 20 Oct 2015 5.00pm

You two have fun w***ing each other off though.

Should we choose to do so, at least it'll be abetted by an intelligent discourse. One imagines you specialise in the w***king without the insight, judging on contributions to this thread.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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DanH SW2 20 Oct 15 5.27pm
Quote Stuk at 20 Oct 2015 5.00pm It's nothing to do with free speech, it's the inaccuracy and false attribution. You two have fun w***ing each other off though. U OK hun?
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DanH

SW2 20 Oct 15 5.27pm

Quote Stuk at 20 Oct 2015 5.00pm

It's nothing to do with free speech, it's the inaccuracy and false attribution.

You two have fun w***ing each other off though.

U OK hun?

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oldcodger 20 Oct 15 6.18pm
Quote Stuk at 20 Oct 2015 5.00pm Quote sydtheeagle at 20 Oct 2015 4.53pm Quote oldcodger at 20 Oct 2015 4.25pm Quote Stuk at 20 Oct 2015 4.07pm Quote sydtheeagle at 20 Oct 2015 4.01pm Quote Stuk at 20 Oct 2015 3.58pm Quote sydtheeagle at 20 Oct 2015 3.57pm Quote Stuk at 20 Oct 2015 3.55pm How is that "ours". I think our policy towards Syria, Iraq and the Middle East generally falls in line with America's. Everything you have posted is nothing to do with us. Mods change the thread title please. I haven't posted anything. Just an article about which I noted it was interesting but didn't add my own opinion. The thread title clearly says "US et al". Don't change the thread title: it's quite clear. If you disagree with it, please debate the issue. Contradiction. I don't care what you think the thread title clearly says. This had f* all to do with the UK, i.e. "us", therefore it's not "our" anything. Please change it mods, or delete it altogether. I assumed by 'us' he meant the West. We have certainly been part of a failed military strategy so it's hardly black and white and nothing to start swearing about or giving the mod more work to do. You've said your piece. If the mod wishes to make changes he will. Free speech isn't popular in these parts, is it? I mean, you post an article for discussion (the precise point of an Internet forum, I'd have thought) and someone immediately goes pre-menstrual in the most vitriolically personal of ways. The funniest thing is that he refers to the content of the article as "nonsense" as if that means it shouldn't be read. WTF? I didn't even say it wasn't nonsense; merely worth reading and responding to. Your interpretation of my general intent is absolutely correct, but I think most can probably discern that. It's nothing to do with free speech, it's the inaccuracy and false attribution. You two have fun w*ing each other off though. Well I've heard it all now!
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20 Oct 15 6.18pm

Quote Stuk at 20 Oct 2015 5.00pm

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Quote oldcodger at 20 Oct 2015 4.25pm

Quote Stuk at 20 Oct 2015 4.07pm

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Quote Stuk at 20 Oct 2015 3.58pm

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Quote Stuk at 20 Oct 2015 3.55pm

How is that "ours".

I think our policy towards Syria, Iraq and the Middle East generally falls in line with America's.

Everything you have posted is nothing to do with us.

Mods change the thread title please.

I haven't posted anything. Just an article about which I noted it was interesting but didn't add my own opinion. The thread title clearly says "US et al". Don't change the thread title: it's quite clear. If you disagree with it, please debate the issue.

Contradiction.

I don't care what you think the thread title clearly says. This had f*** all to do with the UK, i.e. "us", therefore it's not "our" anything.

Please change it mods, or delete it altogether.

I assumed by 'us' he meant the West. We have certainly been part of a failed military strategy so it's hardly black and white and nothing to start swearing about or giving the mod more work to do. You've said your piece. If the mod wishes to make changes he will.

Free speech isn't popular in these parts, is it? I mean, you post an article for discussion (the precise point of an Internet forum, I'd have thought) and someone immediately goes pre-menstrual in the most vitriolically personal of ways. The funniest thing is that he refers to the content of the article as "nonsense" as if that means it shouldn't be read. WTF? I didn't even say it wasn't nonsense; merely worth reading and responding to. Your interpretation of my general intent is absolutely correct, but I think most can probably discern that.

It's nothing to do with free speech, it's the inaccuracy and false attribution.

You two have fun w***ing each other off though.

Well I've heard it all now!

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oldcodger 20 Oct 15 6.21pm
The West's madcap 'dictator whack-a-mole' clearly made the middle east situation much worse and so it's harder to convince the public now that the latest bogeyman needs to be dethroned. The Russians are doing what's in their strategic interest, just as the US did when it attempted to help further destablise Syria. Whether they'll get on any better is anyone's guess. Just another stage in a proxy war. Edited by oldcodger (21 Oct 2015 12.35pm)
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oldcodger

20 Oct 15 6.21pm

The West's madcap 'dictator whack-a-mole' clearly made the middle east situation much worse and so it's harder to convince the public now that the latest bogeyman needs to be dethroned.

The Russians are doing what's in their strategic interest, just as the US did when it attempted to help further destablise Syria. Whether they'll get on any better is anyone's guess. Just another stage in a proxy war.

Edited by oldcodger (21 Oct 2015 12.35pm)

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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 20 Oct 15 6.34pm
Our (US et al) failed strategy in the Middle East It hasn't failed at all. Creating fear from nothing has it's perks. Time to move forward together.
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Alphabettispaghetti 20 Oct 15 6.34pm

Our (US et al) failed strategy in the Middle East

It hasn't failed at all.
Creating fear from nothing has it's perks.

Time to move forward together.

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sydtheeagle England 20 Oct 15 6.38pm
Quote -TUX- at 20 Oct 2015 6.34pm Our (US et al) failed strategy in the Middle East It hasn't failed at all. Creating fear from nothing has it's perks. It does if you want to shovel through a few "homeland security" laws unopposed. But that view's too cynical even for me. Edited by sydtheeagle (20 Oct 2015 6.38pm) Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Quote -TUX- at 20 Oct 2015 6.34pm

Our (US et al) failed strategy in the Middle East

It hasn't failed at all.
Creating fear from nothing has it's perks.

It does if you want to shovel through a few "homeland security" laws unopposed. But that view's too cynical even for me.

Edited by sydtheeagle (20 Oct 2015 6.38pm)

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 20 Oct 15 7.18pm
Quote sydtheeagle at 20 Oct 2015 6.38pm Quote -TUX- at 20 Oct 2015 6.34pm Our (US et al) failed strategy in the Middle East It hasn't failed at all. Creating fear from nothing has it's perks. It does if you want to shovel through a few "homeland security" laws unopposed. But that view's too cynical even for me. Edited by sydtheeagle (20 Oct 2015 6.38pm) Each to their own. Edit: Two world Wars didn't last as long as this alleged Middle East crisis. Crisis my a-se. Manipulation of the masses. Edited by -TUX- (20 Oct 2015 7.30pm) Time to move forward together.
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Alphabettispaghetti 20 Oct 15 7.18pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 20 Oct 2015 6.38pm

Quote -TUX- at 20 Oct 2015 6.34pm

Our (US et al) failed strategy in the Middle East

It hasn't failed at all.
Creating fear from nothing has it's perks.

It does if you want to shovel through a few "homeland security" laws unopposed. But that view's too cynical even for me.

Edited by sydtheeagle (20 Oct 2015 6.38pm)

Each to their own.

Edit: Two world Wars didn't last as long as this alleged Middle East crisis.
Crisis my a-se. Manipulation of the masses.

Edited by -TUX- (20 Oct 2015 7.30pm)

Time to move forward together.

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OldFella London 20 Oct 15 8.34pm
Quote -TUX- at 20 Oct 2015 7.18pm Quote sydtheeagle at 20 Oct 2015 6.38pm Quote -TUX- at 20 Oct 2015 6.34pm Our (US et al) failed strategy in the Middle East It hasn't failed at all. Creating fear from nothing has it's perks. It does if you want to shovel through a few "homeland security" laws unopposed. But that view's too cynical even for me. Edited by sydtheeagle (20 Oct 2015 6.38pm) Each to their own. Edit: Two world Wars didn't last as long as this alleged Middle East crisis. Crisis my a-se. Manipulation of the masses. Edited by -TUX- (20 Oct 2015 7.30pm) "There's someone in my head, but it's not me.." Strange little conspiracy theorist Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..
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London 20 Oct 15 8.34pm

Quote -TUX- at 20 Oct 2015 7.18pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 20 Oct 2015 6.38pm

Quote -TUX- at 20 Oct 2015 6.34pm

Our (US et al) failed strategy in the Middle East

It hasn't failed at all.
Creating fear from nothing has it's perks.

It does if you want to shovel through a few "homeland security" laws unopposed. But that view's too cynical even for me.

Edited by sydtheeagle (20 Oct 2015 6.38pm)

Each to their own.

Edit: Two world Wars didn't last as long as this alleged Middle East crisis.
Crisis my a-se. Manipulation of the masses.

Edited by -TUX- (20 Oct 2015 7.30pm)

"There's someone in my head, but it's not me.."
Strange little conspiracy theorist

Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..

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matt_himself Matataland 20 Oct 15 8.41pm
Quote Cucking Funt at 20 Oct 2015 5.00pm Should have nuked the c*nts back in the 70s. Could not agree more. "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.� - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 20 Oct 15 8.41pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 20 Oct 2015 5.00pm

Should have nuked the c*nts back in the 70s.

Could not agree more.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.� - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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