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Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 11 Nov 15 11.09am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 11 Nov 2015 10.53am Quote Superfly at 11 Nov 2015 9.57am Quote -TUX- at 10 Nov 2015 6.56pm Quote Superfly at 10 Nov 2015 11.17am Quote Cucking Funt at 10 Nov 2015 11.07am Quote Superfly at 10 Nov 2015 11.00am I can't believe the winging on this site at times. Boo hoo hoo - I got told off for linking being black with being a cnt! TUX would you have said that out loud if you were standing next to a black bloke? And Willo. Shut up. If you can't see the difference between naming a dish after the region it originated and linking violent behaviour to skin colour then words fail me. But if he HAD said it out loud standing next to a black bloke and it provoked the kind of reaction you're implying it would, wouldn't that kind of vindicate his comment? Should opinions be stifled just because someone might react with violence? That's such an odd thing to say Cucking. I was asking TUX if he would say it, knowing that it would cause offense to him* (not what the imaginary blokes reaction would be - which you seem to have assumed would be violent). The imaginary black bloke would react to being offended by an ignorant comment. The same as imaginary blokes of any colour. 1. Why do you presume he'd be offended but not ashamed?2. It was never an ignorant comment, purely an assumption based on probability. Just like my bet on Sunday re Palace v Liverpool. When something happens more often than not then the odds are in your favour are they not? This has absolutely nothing to do with my stance on any given race, purely the 'odds' based on the facts. For all the deadheads here, and that includes the mods, the clue was in the very first line of this thread.......Really brave, two of them attacking an 87 year old woman. She probably "dissed" them Hardly rocket science is it! Yes, you're right. He should be ashamed. Of course, that also means that you should be ashamed on behalf of the white race for Harold Shipman and Peter Sutcliffe and the West's and the other predominatly white British serial killers. Must be a race thing eh? Those Teddy Boys used to love a carve up with a razor blade. Bloody whites eh! I really can't be bothered with the rest of it. My main point btw was you bleating about your yellow and all the 'you can't say anything nowadays' brigade that followed. Saying something like 'typical blacks' will almost certainly get you carded. Yes that would be OK argument if 90% of street crime, which is what we are talking about, was committed by whites in line with their numbers. That is not the case. This is not about blaming all black people or expecting each individual to take responsibility or feel ashamed for someone else's actions. it is about recognising the fact that the black community has a huge problem with it's youth. Knife and drug crime has been a problem within the black community since the 50's, it is nothing new. This stuff effects us all so we are entitled to comment on it. Statistically, someone is twice as likely to be stabbed by a black person that anyone else. Talking about white serial killers in a predominantly white country is not helpful, comparable or relevant. It is just ducking the issue. This was the issue, with TUX, that I was dealing with. I wasn't ducking any issues - I was talking specifically about the stupid suggestion that an innocent black man should be ashamed on behalf of actions carried out by another member of his race. But cheers for the lecture anyway. Lend me a Tenor 31 May to 3 June 2017 John McIntosh Arts Centre London Oratory School SW6 1RX with Superfly in the chorus [Link]
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I can't believe the winging on this site at times. Boo hoo hoo - I got told off for linking being black with being a c*nt! TUX would you have said that out loud if you were standing next to a black bloke?

And Willo. Shut up. If you can't see the difference between naming a dish after the region it originated and linking violent behaviour to skin colour then words fail me.

But if he HAD said it out loud standing next to a black bloke and it provoked the kind of reaction you're implying it would, wouldn't that kind of vindicate his comment? Should opinions be stifled just because someone might react with violence?

That's such an odd thing to say Cucking. I was asking TUX if he would say it, knowing that it would cause offense to him (not what the imaginary blokes reaction would be - which you seem to have assumed would be violent). The imaginary black bloke would react to being offended by an ignorant comment. The same as imaginary blokes of any colour.

1. Why do you presume he'd be offended but not ashamed?2. It was never an ignorant comment, purely an assumption based on probability. Just like my bet on Sunday re Palace v Liverpool. When something happens more often than not then the odds are in your favour are they not?

This has absolutely nothing to do with my stance on any given race, purely the 'odds' based on the facts.
For all the deadheads here, and that includes the mods, the clue was in the very first line of this thread.......Really brave, two of them attacking an 87 year old woman. She probably "dissed" them

Hardly rocket science is it!

Yes, you're right. He should be ashamed.

Of course, that also means that you should be ashamed on behalf of the white race for Harold Shipman and Peter Sutcliffe and the West's and the other predominatly white British serial killers. Must be a race thing eh?
Those Teddy Boys used to love a carve up with a razor blade. Bloody whites eh!

I really can't be bothered with the rest of it.

My main point btw was you bleating about your yellow and all the 'you can't say anything nowadays' brigade that followed. Saying something like 'typical blacks' will almost certainly get you carded.

Yes that would be OK argument if 90% of street crime, which is what we are talking about, was committed by whites in line with their numbers. That is not the case. This is not about blaming all black people or expecting each individual to take responsibility or feel ashamed for someone else's actions. it is about recognising the fact that the black community has a huge problem with it's youth. Knife and drug crime has been a problem within the black community since the 50's, it is nothing new. This stuff effects us all so we are entitled to comment on it. Statistically, someone is twice as likely to be stabbed by a black person that anyone else. Talking about white serial killers in a predominantly white country is not helpful, comparable or relevant. It is just ducking the issue.

This was the issue, with TUX, that I was dealing with. I wasn't ducking any issues - I was talking specifically about the stupid suggestion that an innocent black man should be ashamed on behalf of actions carried out by another member of his race. But cheers for the lecture anyway.

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Hoof Hearted 11 Nov 15 11.15am
I wish someone could harness all the hot air produced on here and utilise it to produce energy for the National Grid.
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I wish someone could harness all the hot air produced on here and utilise it to produce energy for the National Grid.

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Hrolf The Ganger 11 Nov 15 11.17am
Quote Superfly at 11 Nov 2015 11.09am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 11 Nov 2015 10.53am Quote Superfly at 11 Nov 2015 9.57am Quote -TUX- at 10 Nov 2015 6.56pm Quote Superfly at 10 Nov 2015 11.17am Quote Cucking Funt at 10 Nov 2015 11.07am Quote Superfly at 10 Nov 2015 11.00am I can't believe the winging on this site at times. Boo hoo hoo - I got told off for linking being black with being a cnt! TUX would you have said that out loud if you were standing next to a black bloke? And Willo. Shut up. If you can't see the difference between naming a dish after the region it originated and linking violent behaviour to skin colour then words fail me. But if he HAD said it out loud standing next to a black bloke and it provoked the kind of reaction you're implying it would, wouldn't that kind of vindicate his comment? Should opinions be stifled just because someone might react with violence? That's such an odd thing to say Cucking. I was asking TUX if he would say it, knowing that it would cause offense to him* (not what the imaginary blokes reaction would be - which you seem to have assumed would be violent). The imaginary black bloke would react to being offended by an ignorant comment. The same as imaginary blokes of any colour. 1. Why do you presume he'd be offended but not ashamed?2. It was never an ignorant comment, purely an assumption based on probability. Just like my bet on Sunday re Palace v Liverpool. When something happens more often than not then the odds are in your favour are they not? This has absolutely nothing to do with my stance on any given race, purely the 'odds' based on the facts. For all the deadheads here, and that includes the mods, the clue was in the very first line of this thread.......Really brave, two of them attacking an 87 year old woman. She probably "dissed" them Hardly rocket science is it! Yes, you're right. He should be ashamed. Of course, that also means that you should be ashamed on behalf of the white race for Harold Shipman and Peter Sutcliffe and the West's and the other predominatly white British serial killers. Must be a race thing eh? Those Teddy Boys used to love a carve up with a razor blade. Bloody whites eh! I really can't be bothered with the rest of it. My main point btw was you bleating about your yellow and all the 'you can't say anything nowadays' brigade that followed. Saying something like 'typical blacks' will almost certainly get you carded. Yes that would be OK argument if 90% of street crime, which is what we are talking about, was committed by whites in line with their numbers. That is not the case. This is not about blaming all black people or expecting each individual to take responsibility or feel ashamed for someone else's actions. it is about recognising the fact that the black community has a huge problem with it's youth. Knife and drug crime has been a problem within the black community since the 50's, it is nothing new. This stuff effects us all so we are entitled to comment on it. Statistically, someone is twice as likely to be stabbed by a black person that anyone else. Talking about white serial killers in a predominantly white country is not helpful, comparable or relevant. It is just ducking the issue. This was the issue, with TUX, that I was dealing with. I wasn't ducking any issues - I was talking specifically about the stupid suggestion that an innocent black man should be ashamed on behalf of actions carried out by another member of his race. But cheers for the lecture anyway. No lecture intended Suoerfly. In fact I agree with what you say. This is a subject that we should all be concerned with but I can't feel guilty because of Hitler or Stalin so I wouldn't expect anyone else to do similar. What I would expect is for parents to act responsibly and mind their kids. Discipline begins at home.
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And Willo. Shut up. If you can't see the difference between naming a dish after the region it originated and linking violent behaviour to skin colour then words fail me.

Hardly rocket science is it!

Yes, you're right. He should be ashamed.

I really can't be bothered with the rest of it.

My main point btw was you bleating about your yellow and all the 'you can't say anything nowadays' brigade that followed. Saying something like 'typical blacks' will almost certainly get you carded.

No lecture intended Suoerfly. In fact I agree with what you say. This is a subject that we should all be concerned with but I can't feel guilty because of Hitler or Stalin so I wouldn't expect anyone else to do similar. What I would expect is for parents to act responsibly and mind their kids. Discipline begins at home.

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Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 11 Nov 15 11.45am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 11 Nov 2015 11.17am Quote Superfly at 11 Nov 2015 11.09am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 11 Nov 2015 10.53am Quote Superfly at 11 Nov 2015 9.57am Quote -TUX- at 10 Nov 2015 6.56pm Quote Superfly at 10 Nov 2015 11.17am Quote Cucking Funt at 10 Nov 2015 11.07am Quote Superfly at 10 Nov 2015 11.00am I can't believe the winging on this site at times. Boo hoo hoo - I got told off for linking being black with being a cnt! TUX would you have said that out loud if you were standing next to a black bloke? And Willo. Shut up. If you can't see the difference between naming a dish after the region it originated and linking violent behaviour to skin colour then words fail me. But if he HAD said it out loud standing next to a black bloke and it provoked the kind of reaction you're implying it would, wouldn't that kind of vindicate his comment? Should opinions be stifled just because someone might react with violence? That's such an odd thing to say Cucking. I was asking TUX if he would say it, knowing that it would cause offense to him* (not what the imaginary blokes reaction would be - which you seem to have assumed would be violent). The imaginary black bloke would react to being offended by an ignorant comment. The same as imaginary blokes of any colour. 1. Why do you presume he'd be offended but not ashamed?2. It was never an ignorant comment, purely an assumption based on probability. Just like my bet on Sunday re Palace v Liverpool. When something happens more often than not then the odds are in your favour are they not? This has absolutely nothing to do with my stance on any given race, purely the 'odds' based on the facts. For all the deadheads here, and that includes the mods, the clue was in the very first line of this thread.......Really brave, two of them attacking an 87 year old woman. She probably "dissed" them Hardly rocket science is it! Yes, you're right. He should be ashamed. Of course, that also means that you should be ashamed on behalf of the white race for Harold Shipman and Peter Sutcliffe and the West's and the other predominatly white British serial killers. Must be a race thing eh? Those Teddy Boys used to love a carve up with a razor blade. Bloody whites eh! I really can't be bothered with the rest of it. My main point btw was you bleating about your yellow and all the 'you can't say anything nowadays' brigade that followed. Saying something like 'typical blacks' will almost certainly get you carded. Yes that would be OK argument if 90% of street crime, which is what we are talking about, was committed by whites in line with their numbers. That is not the case. This is not about blaming all black people or expecting each individual to take responsibility or feel ashamed for someone else's actions. it is about recognising the fact that the black community has a huge problem with it's youth. Knife and drug crime has been a problem within the black community since the 50's, it is nothing new. This stuff effects us all so we are entitled to comment on it. Statistically, someone is twice as likely to be stabbed by a black person that anyone else. Talking about white serial killers in a predominantly white country is not helpful, comparable or relevant. It is just ducking the issue. This was the issue, with TUX, that I was dealing with. I wasn't ducking any issues - I was talking specifically about the stupid suggestion that an innocent black man should be ashamed on behalf of actions carried out by another member of his race. But cheers for the lecture anyway. No lecture intended Suoerfly. In fact I agree with what you say. This is a subject that we should all be concerned with but I can't feel guilty because of Hitler or Stalin so I wouldn't expect anyone else to do similar. What I would expect is for parents to act responsibly and mind their kids. Discipline begins at home. And for the record, I mostly agree with you Hrolf. There is most definitly a crime problem within the black community. Where we differ is - I don't think it's helpful emphasising (or, in the case of this specific thread, even mentioning) race. Crime is caused by circumstance and not by pigmentation. If you do that, it becomes the reason (they did it coz they're black) which then leads to the absurd assumptions that an innocent person should feel a measure of shame for someone elses actions. Lend me a Tenor 31 May to 3 June 2017 John McIntosh Arts Centre London Oratory School SW6 1RX with Superfly in the chorus [Link]
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Quote Superfly at 11 Nov 2015 9.57am

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Quote Superfly at 10 Nov 2015 11.00am

And Willo. Shut up. If you can't see the difference between naming a dish after the region it originated and linking violent behaviour to skin colour then words fail me.

Hardly rocket science is it!

Yes, you're right. He should be ashamed.

I really can't be bothered with the rest of it.

My main point btw was you bleating about your yellow and all the 'you can't say anything nowadays' brigade that followed. Saying something like 'typical blacks' will almost certainly get you carded.

And for the record, I mostly agree with you Hrolf. There is most definitly a crime problem within the black community. Where we differ is - I don't think it's helpful emphasising (or, in the case of this specific thread, even mentioning) race. Crime is caused by circumstance and not by pigmentation. If you do that, it becomes the reason (they did it coz they're black) which then leads to the absurd assumptions that an innocent person should feel a measure of shame for someone elses actions.

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Kermit8 Hevon 11 Nov 15 11.54am
There are more stabbings in 1milliom populated Glasgow than in 9 million populated London so it must follow that the 'white community' has a problem which it has ignored for far too long and, thus, must be held to be partly responsible. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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There are more stabbings in 1milliom populated Glasgow than in 9 million populated London so it must follow that the 'white community' has a problem which it has ignored for far too long and, thus, must be held to be partly responsible.

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Hrolf The Ganger 11 Nov 15 12.06pm
Quote Kermit8 at 11 Nov 2015 11.54am There are more stabbings in 1milliom populated Glasgow than in 9 million populated London so it must follow that the 'white community' has a problem which it has ignored for far too long and, thus, must be held to be partly responsible. That would be true in Glasgow. Not everyone in Glasgow is white BTW. I think you are stereotyping Kermie.
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There are more stabbings in 1milliom populated Glasgow than in 9 million populated London so it must follow that the 'white community' has a problem which it has ignored for far too long and, thus, must be held to be partly responsible.

That would be true in Glasgow.

Not everyone in Glasgow is white BTW. I think you are stereotyping Kermie.

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7mins In the bush 11 Nov 15 12.11pm
Quote Kermit8 at 11 Nov 2015 11.54am There are more stabbings in 1milliom populated Glasgow than in 9 million populated London so it must follow that the 'white community' has a problem which it has ignored for far too long and, thus, must be held to be partly responsible. I thought we were discussing crime stats in London. If you want to discuss crime stats in Glasgow then feel free to do so....and I would agree if those stats are true, that there is a problem with white people stabbing people. If you are trying to be clever, I would again argue that I find the "what-about..." argument stupid, flawed and in my mind I would be asking myself questions about your agenda.
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I thought we were discussing crime stats in London.
If you want to discuss crime stats in Glasgow then feel free to do so....and I would agree if those stats are true, that there is a problem with white people stabbing people.

If you are trying to be clever, I would again argue that I find the "what-about..." argument stupid, flawed and in my mind I would be asking myself questions about your agenda.

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7mins In the bush 11 Nov 15 12.15pm
Quote 7mins at 11 Nov 2015 12.11pm Quote Kermit8 at 11 Nov 2015 11.54am There are more stabbings in 1milliom populated Glasgow than in 9 million populated London so it must follow that the 'white community' has a problem which it has ignored for far too long and, thus, must be held to be partly responsible. I thought we were discussing crime stats in London. If you want to discuss crime stats in Glasgow then feel free to do so....and I would agree if those stats are true, that there is a problem with white people stabbing people. If you are trying to be clever, I would again argue that I find the "what-about..." argument stupid, flawed and in my mind I would be asking myself questions about your agenda. ...and hopefully they are stopping and searching White males... I mean if you're looking for the jolly green giant, you don't go looking for the 7 dwarfs.
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Quote Kermit8 at 11 Nov 2015 11.54am

If you are trying to be clever, I would again argue that I find the "what-about..." argument stupid, flawed and in my mind I would be asking myself questions about your agenda.

...and hopefully they are stopping and searching White males... I mean if you're looking for the jolly green giant, you don't go looking for the 7 dwarfs.

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Hrolf The Ganger 11 Nov 15 1.36pm
Quote Superfly at 11 Nov 2015 11.45am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 11 Nov 2015 11.17am Quote Superfly at 11 Nov 2015 11.09am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 11 Nov 2015 10.53am Quote Superfly at 11 Nov 2015 9.57am Quote -TUX- at 10 Nov 2015 6.56pm Quote Superfly at 10 Nov 2015 11.17am Quote Cucking Funt at 10 Nov 2015 11.07am Quote Superfly at 10 Nov 2015 11.00am I can't believe the winging on this site at times. Boo hoo hoo - I got told off for linking being black with being a cnt! TUX would you have said that out loud if you were standing next to a black bloke? And Willo. Shut up. If you can't see the difference between naming a dish after the region it originated and linking violent behaviour to skin colour then words fail me. But if he HAD said it out loud standing next to a black bloke and it provoked the kind of reaction you're implying it would, wouldn't that kind of vindicate his comment? Should opinions be stifled just because someone might react with violence? That's such an odd thing to say Cucking. I was asking TUX if he would say it, knowing that it would cause offense to him* (not what the imaginary blokes reaction would be - which you seem to have assumed would be violent). The imaginary black bloke would react to being offended by an ignorant comment. The same as imaginary blokes of any colour. 1. Why do you presume he'd be offended but not ashamed?2. It was never an ignorant comment, purely an assumption based on probability. Just like my bet on Sunday re Palace v Liverpool. When something happens more often than not then the odds are in your favour are they not? This has absolutely nothing to do with my stance on any given race, purely the 'odds' based on the facts. For all the deadheads here, and that includes the mods, the clue was in the very first line of this thread.......Really brave, two of them attacking an 87 year old woman. She probably "dissed" them Hardly rocket science is it! Yes, you're right. He should be ashamed. Of course, that also means that you should be ashamed on behalf of the white race for Harold Shipman and Peter Sutcliffe and the West's and the other predominatly white British serial killers. Must be a race thing eh? Those Teddy Boys used to love a carve up with a razor blade. Bloody whites eh! I really can't be bothered with the rest of it. My main point btw was you bleating about your yellow and all the 'you can't say anything nowadays' brigade that followed. Saying something like 'typical blacks' will almost certainly get you carded. Yes that would be OK argument if 90% of street crime, which is what we are talking about, was committed by whites in line with their numbers. That is not the case. This is not about blaming all black people or expecting each individual to take responsibility or feel ashamed for someone else's actions. it is about recognising the fact that the black community has a huge problem with it's youth. Knife and drug crime has been a problem within the black community since the 50's, it is nothing new. This stuff effects us all so we are entitled to comment on it. Statistically, someone is twice as likely to be stabbed by a black person that anyone else. Talking about white serial killers in a predominantly white country is not helpful, comparable or relevant. It is just ducking the issue. This was the issue, with TUX, that I was dealing with. I wasn't ducking any issues - I was talking specifically about the stupid suggestion that an innocent black man should be ashamed on behalf of actions carried out by another member of his race. But cheers for the lecture anyway. No lecture intended Suoerfly. In fact I agree with what you say. This is a subject that we should all be concerned with but I can't feel guilty because of Hitler or Stalin so I wouldn't expect anyone else to do similar. What I would expect is for parents to act responsibly and mind their kids. Discipline begins at home. And for the record, I mostly agree with you Hrolf. There is most definitly a crime problem within the black community. Where we differ is - I don't think it's helpful emphasising (or, in the case of this specific thread, even mentioning) race. Crime is caused by circumstance and not by pigmentation. If you do that, it becomes the reason (they did it coz they're black) which then leads to the absurd assumptions that an innocent person should feel a measure of shame for someone elses actions. What circumstances are these ? I need to understand.
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And Willo. Shut up. If you can't see the difference between naming a dish after the region it originated and linking violent behaviour to skin colour then words fail me.

Hardly rocket science is it!

Yes, you're right. He should be ashamed.

I really can't be bothered with the rest of it.

My main point btw was you bleating about your yellow and all the 'you can't say anything nowadays' brigade that followed. Saying something like 'typical blacks' will almost certainly get you carded.

What circumstances are these ? I need to understand.

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Kermit8 Hevon 11 Nov 15 1.58pm
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 11 Nov 2015 12.06pm Quote Kermit8 at 11 Nov 2015 11.54am There are more stabbings in 1milliom populated Glasgow than in 9 million populated London so it must follow that the 'white community' has a problem which it has ignored for far too long and, thus, must be held to be partly responsible. That would be true in Glasgow. Not everyone in Glasgow is white BTW. I think you are stereotyping Kermie. Ah, now we get to the crux. Why should 'the White community' be held to account in Glasgow? Well, in fact, they are not, are they? The blame is rightly put on violent individuals, gangs and their dysfunctional families along with other depravation. As it should be with those nasty cvnts who happen to be of African/Carribbean heritage. But, for some reason, innocent members of their community because they have the same skin colour are being blamed by some for apparently not doing anything about it. It has nothing to do with them. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 11 Nov 2015 12.06pm

Quote Kermit8 at 11 Nov 2015 11.54am

That would be true in Glasgow.

Not everyone in Glasgow is white BTW. I think you are stereotyping Kermie.

Ah, now we get to the crux. Why should 'the White community' be held to account in Glasgow? Well, in fact, they are not, are they? The blame is rightly put on violent individuals, gangs and their dysfunctional families along with other depravation.

As it should be with those nasty cvnts who happen to be of African/Carribbean heritage. But, for some reason, innocent members of their community because they have the same skin colour are being blamed by some for apparently not doing anything about it.

It has nothing to do with them.

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Superfly The sun always shines in Catford 11 Nov 15 2.00pm
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 11 Nov 2015 1.36pm Quote Superfly at 11 Nov 2015 11.45am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 11 Nov 2015 11.17am Quote Superfly at 11 Nov 2015 11.09am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 11 Nov 2015 10.53am Quote Superfly at 11 Nov 2015 9.57am Quote -TUX- at 10 Nov 2015 6.56pm Quote Superfly at 10 Nov 2015 11.17am Quote Cucking Funt at 10 Nov 2015 11.07am Quote Superfly at 10 Nov 2015 11.00am I can't believe the winging on this site at times. Boo hoo hoo - I got told off for linking being black with being a cnt! TUX would you have said that out loud if you were standing next to a black bloke? And Willo. Shut up. If you can't see the difference between naming a dish after the region it originated and linking violent behaviour to skin colour then words fail me. But if he HAD said it out loud standing next to a black bloke and it provoked the kind of reaction you're implying it would, wouldn't that kind of vindicate his comment? Should opinions be stifled just because someone might react with violence? That's such an odd thing to say Cucking. I was asking TUX if he would say it, knowing that it would cause offense to him* (not what the imaginary blokes reaction would be - which you seem to have assumed would be violent). The imaginary black bloke would react to being offended by an ignorant comment. The same as imaginary blokes of any colour. 1. Why do you presume he'd be offended but not ashamed?2. It was never an ignorant comment, purely an assumption based on probability. Just like my bet on Sunday re Palace v Liverpool. When something happens more often than not then the odds are in your favour are they not? This has absolutely nothing to do with my stance on any given race, purely the 'odds' based on the facts. For all the deadheads here, and that includes the mods, the clue was in the very first line of this thread.......Really brave, two of them attacking an 87 year old woman. She probably "dissed" them Hardly rocket science is it! Yes, you're right. He should be ashamed. Of course, that also means that you should be ashamed on behalf of the white race for Harold Shipman and Peter Sutcliffe and the West's and the other predominatly white British serial killers. Must be a race thing eh? Those Teddy Boys used to love a carve up with a razor blade. Bloody whites eh! I really can't be bothered with the rest of it. My main point btw was you bleating about your yellow and all the 'you can't say anything nowadays' brigade that followed. Saying something like 'typical blacks' will almost certainly get you carded. Yes that would be OK argument if 90% of street crime, which is what we are talking about, was committed by whites in line with their numbers. That is not the case. This is not about blaming all black people or expecting each individual to take responsibility or feel ashamed for someone else's actions. it is about recognising the fact that the black community has a huge problem with it's youth. Knife and drug crime has been a problem within the black community since the 50's, it is nothing new. This stuff effects us all so we are entitled to comment on it. Statistically, someone is twice as likely to be stabbed by a black person that anyone else. Talking about white serial killers in a predominantly white country is not helpful, comparable or relevant. It is just ducking the issue. This was the issue, with TUX, that I was dealing with. I wasn't ducking any issues - I was talking specifically about the stupid suggestion that an innocent black man should be ashamed on behalf of actions carried out by another member of his race. But cheers for the lecture anyway. No lecture intended Suoerfly. In fact I agree with what you say. This is a subject that we should all be concerned with but I can't feel guilty because of Hitler or Stalin so I wouldn't expect anyone else to do similar. What I would expect is for parents to act responsibly and mind their kids. Discipline begins at home. And for the record, I mostly agree with you Hrolf. There is most definitly a crime problem within the black community. Where we differ is - I don't think it's helpful emphasising (or, in the case of this specific thread, even mentioning) race. Crime is caused by circumstance and not by pigmentation. If you do that, it becomes the reason (they did it coz they're black) which then leads to the absurd assumptions that an innocent person should feel a measure of shame for someone elses actions. What circumstances are these ? I need to understand. I could give you opinions but as I've done no independant research, it would be unwise and unreliable of me to offer suggestions. But it's not because they were born black. Lend me a Tenor 31 May to 3 June 2017 John McIntosh Arts Centre London Oratory School SW6 1RX with Superfly in the chorus [Link]
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And Willo. Shut up. If you can't see the difference between naming a dish after the region it originated and linking violent behaviour to skin colour then words fail me.

Hardly rocket science is it!

Yes, you're right. He should be ashamed.

I really can't be bothered with the rest of it.

My main point btw was you bleating about your yellow and all the 'you can't say anything nowadays' brigade that followed. Saying something like 'typical blacks' will almost certainly get you carded.

What circumstances are these ? I need to understand.

I could give you opinions but as I've done no independant research, it would be unwise and unreliable of me to offer suggestions. But it's not because they were born black.

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Quote dannyh at 10 Nov 2015 2.54pm Wow that escalated quickly So can we all agree that regardless of race, these two were a pair of grade A cunds, who deserve to be publicly flogged, but instead will probably be sent on a African Safari to show them the error of there ways. One question that no one has asked, so I will, Say I was on that bus, and stepped in to help the old lady, and restrained the daft bitch until the Old Bill arrived, what then if she said I assualted her ? This is why the general public dont help out any more, I know its an old example but look at the farmer who got banged up for shooting burglars IN HIS HOME, over here he gets banged up, in the USA he gets a medal. There has to be something fundamentally wrong when passes by walk past a fellow human being in distress through fear of being prosicuted themselves. Case in point what was the bloody bus driver doing ? I like to think I'd have stepped up in that situation too, have done in a similar situation. I do think that kind of thing can't be ignored or accepted. That said, if your talking about Tony Martin, its important to remember he shot those cts from range, as they were running from his house, in the back, with a shotgun he didn't apparently legally own. Which isn't really self defence or the defence of another. About a decade back I got into it with someone who tried to rob me, of my wallet and phone. Fortunately I had a fairly solid old mobile of the era which fit very snuggly in my fist, and it went very poorly for the drunk ct. I didn't call the police, I just left it with him pissing blood, his face and ribs all bust up, because you just can't be too sure what the outcome was. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Wow that escalated quickly

So can we all agree that regardless of race, these two were a pair of grade A cunds, who deserve to be publicly flogged, but instead will probably be sent on a African Safari to show them the error of there ways.

One question that no one has asked, so I will, Say I was on that bus, and stepped in to help the old lady, and restrained the daft bitch until the Old Bill arrived, what then if she said I assualted her ?

This is why the general public dont help out any more, I know its an old example but look at the farmer who got banged up for shooting burglars IN HIS HOME, over here he gets banged up, in the USA he gets a medal.

There has to be something fundamentally wrong when passes by walk past a fellow human being in distress through fear of being prosicuted themselves.

Case in point what was the bloody bus driver doing ?

I like to think I'd have stepped up in that situation too, have done in a similar situation. I do think that kind of thing can't be ignored or accepted. That said, if your talking about Tony Martin, its important to remember he shot those c**ts from range, as they were running from his house, in the back, with a shotgun he didn't apparently legally own. Which isn't really self defence or the defence of another.

About a decade back I got into it with someone who tried to rob me, of my wallet and phone. Fortunately I had a fairly solid old mobile of the era which fit very snuggly in my fist, and it went very poorly for the drunk c**t. I didn't call the police, I just left it with him pissing blood, his face and ribs all bust up, because you just can't be too sure what the outcome was.

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