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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 11 Nov 15 5.53pm
Quote npn at 11 Nov 2015 9.02am Quote Kermit8 at 10 Nov 2015 10.56pm Vile stuff. It reminded me of when Israeli soldiers did the same and worse to a young Palestinian teenage girl [Link] Oh Kermie, you've let yourself down there - classic case of playing the man not the ball! While both cases are clearly absolutely disgusting, and the perpetrators of both deserve the harshest of punishments, to compare a modern-day case in the UK with one 60 years old in Palestine purely because the original poster is an Israeli is pretty harsh (not to mention irrelevant). If the OP were a German would you respond to his posts with links to what happened at Auschwitz? It depends from his historic posts if you know Johnny's agenda. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."
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pefwin

Where you have to have an English ... 11 Nov 15 5.53pm

Quote npn at 11 Nov 2015 9.02am

Quote Kermit8 at 10 Nov 2015 10.56pm

Vile stuff. It reminded me of when Israeli soldiers did the same and worse to a young Palestinian teenage girl [Link]

Oh Kermie, you've let yourself down there - classic case of playing the man not the ball!

While both cases are clearly absolutely disgusting, and the perpetrators of both deserve the harshest of punishments, to compare a modern-day case in the UK with one 60 years old in Palestine purely because the original poster is an Israeli is pretty harsh (not to mention irrelevant).

If the OP were a German would you respond to his posts with links to what happened at Auschwitz?

It depends from his historic posts if you know Johnny's agenda.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 11 Nov 15 6.00pm
Quote The Sash at 11 Nov 2015 3.43pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 Nov 2015 3.04pm My issue with this, generally revolves around the idea that the race of the victim and perpetrators, appear as the headline of the story, and imply a racial causal factor. Note that when rapes involve white perpetrators, race is excluded in most cases from the summary, or if the victim is not white, and the attackers are, the issue of race will not typically be recorded so blatantly (in the UK). Rape is almost predominately an offence of men on women, and we miss that factor entirely when we view it along racial profiles. One factor that will crop up in over 95% of sexual offences is that the perpetrator will be male, and the victim female. Race is a handy deflection from the fact that 85,000 women (and around 12,000 men) will be raped in the UK in any given year, and significantly men will commit almost all 97,000 incidents. But we always seem to try to find deflections from the fact that the problem lies with men (ie race, blaming the victim or mental illness) rather than tackle the fact that men are the issue here (not race, mental health etc). 97,000 offences a year, and we go out of our way to avoid thinking that maybe male culture factors might be the problem. Agree with most of that apart from that top line Jamie - surely enough of a pattern from this and previous cases (Rochdale, Rotherham, Oxford et al) to suggest that race (and I would also guess social vulnerability) is certainly a factor in the choosing of victims in those specific cases. Although I tend towards Jamies's sentiments, there can be no denial that there are cultural or social or class issues (for want of a better term), not race or religious issues within these groups thinking /meme. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."
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Where you have to have an English ... 11 Nov 15 6.00pm

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Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 Nov 2015 3.04pm

My issue with this, generally revolves around the idea that the race of the victim and perpetrators, appear as the headline of the story, and imply a racial causal factor.

Note that when rapes involve white perpetrators, race is excluded in most cases from the summary, or if the victim is not white, and the attackers are, the issue of race will not typically be recorded so blatantly (in the UK).

Rape is almost predominately an offence of men on women, and we miss that factor entirely when we view it along racial profiles. One factor that will crop up in over 95% of sexual offences is that the perpetrator will be male, and the victim female.

Race is a handy deflection from the fact that 85,000 women (and around 12,000 men) will be raped in the UK in any given year, and significantly men will commit almost all 97,000 incidents.

But we always seem to try to find deflections from the fact that the problem lies with men (ie race, blaming the victim or mental illness) rather than tackle the fact that men are the issue here (not race, mental health etc).

97,000 offences a year, and we go out of our way to avoid thinking that maybe male culture factors might be the problem.

Agree with most of that apart from that top line Jamie - surely enough of a pattern from this and previous cases (Rochdale, Rotherham, Oxford et al) to suggest that race (and I would also guess social vulnerability) is certainly a factor in the choosing of victims in those specific cases.

Although I tend towards Jamies's sentiments, there can be no denial that there are cultural or social or class issues (for want of a better term), not race or religious issues within these groups thinking /meme.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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elgrande bedford 11 Nov 15 6.22pm
Quote pefwin at 11 Nov 2015 6.00pm Quote The Sash at 11 Nov 2015 3.43pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 Nov 2015 3.04pm My issue with this, generally revolves around the idea that the race of the victim and perpetrators, appear as the headline of the story, and imply a racial causal factor. Note that when rapes involve white perpetrators, race is excluded in most cases from the summary, or if the victim is not white, and the attackers are, the issue of race will not typically be recorded so blatantly (in the UK). Rape is almost predominately an offence of men on women, and we miss that factor entirely when we view it along racial profiles. One factor that will crop up in over 95% of sexual offences is that the perpetrator will be male, and the victim female. Race is a handy deflection from the fact that 85,000 women (and around 12,000 men) will be raped in the UK in any given year, and significantly men will commit almost all 97,000 incidents. But we always seem to try to find deflections from the fact that the problem lies with men (ie race, blaming the victim or mental illness) rather than tackle the fact that men are the issue here (not race, mental health etc). 97,000 offences a year, and we go out of our way to avoid thinking that maybe male culture factors might be the problem. Agree with most of that apart from that top line Jamie - surely enough of a pattern from this and previous cases (Rochdale, Rotherham, Oxford et al) to suggest that race (and I would also guess social vulnerability) is certainly a factor in the choosing of victims in those specific cases. Although I tend towards Jamies's sentiments, there can be no denial that there are cultural or social or class issues (for want of a better term), not race or religious issues within these groups thinking /meme. I am just trying to get my head round this. So if it were gangs of white/British born males targeting Asian Girls that would be social not racial. Surely it's racial as they see the white girls below them,how often do they target Asian/Muslim girls. Every single one of the recent cases,High Wycombe/Aylesbury/Oxford/Rotherham/Rochdale/Dewsbury/Peterbourgh, has been Muslim/pakistani gangs against White girls. I just wonder what the response on here would be if it was the other way round. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 Nov 2015 3.04pm

My issue with this, generally revolves around the idea that the race of the victim and perpetrators, appear as the headline of the story, and imply a racial causal factor.

Race is a handy deflection from the fact that 85,000 women (and around 12,000 men) will be raped in the UK in any given year, and significantly men will commit almost all 97,000 incidents.

97,000 offences a year, and we go out of our way to avoid thinking that maybe male culture factors might be the problem.

I am just trying to get my head round this.
So if it were gangs of white/British born males targeting Asian Girls that would be social not racial.
Surely it's racial as they see the white girls below them,how often do they target Asian/Muslim girls.
Every single one of the recent cases,High Wycombe/Aylesbury/Oxford/Rotherham/Rochdale/Dewsbury/Peterbourgh, has been Muslim/pakistani gangs against White girls.
I just wonder what the response on here would be if it was the other way round.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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kingdowieonthewall Sussex, ex-Cronx. 11 Nov 15 6.27pm
Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 6.22pm Quote pefwin at 11 Nov 2015 6.00pm Quote The Sash at 11 Nov 2015 3.43pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 Nov 2015 3.04pm My issue with this, generally revolves around the idea that the race of the victim and perpetrators, appear as the headline of the story, and imply a racial causal factor. Note that when rapes involve white perpetrators, race is excluded in most cases from the summary, or if the victim is not white, and the attackers are, the issue of race will not typically be recorded so blatantly (in the UK). Rape is almost predominately an offence of men on women, and we miss that factor entirely when we view it along racial profiles. One factor that will crop up in over 95% of sexual offences is that the perpetrator will be male, and the victim female. Race is a handy deflection from the fact that 85,000 women (and around 12,000 men) will be raped in the UK in any given year, and significantly men will commit almost all 97,000 incidents. But we always seem to try to find deflections from the fact that the problem lies with men (ie race, blaming the victim or mental illness) rather than tackle the fact that men are the issue here (not race, mental health etc). 97,000 offences a year, and we go out of our way to avoid thinking that maybe male culture factors might be the problem. Agree with most of that apart from that top line Jamie - surely enough of a pattern from this and previous cases (Rochdale, Rotherham, Oxford et al) to suggest that race (and I would also guess social vulnerability) is certainly a factor in the choosing of victims in those specific cases. Although I tend towards Jamies's sentiments, there can be no denial that there are cultural or social or class issues (for want of a better term), not race or religious issues within these groups thinking /meme. I am just trying to get my head round this. So if it were gangs of white/British born males targeting Asian Girls that would be social not racial. Surely it's racial as they see the white girls below them,how often do they target Asian/Muslim girls. Every single one of the recent cases,High Wycombe/Aylesbury/Oxford/Rotherham/Rochdale/Dewsbury/Peterbourgh, has been Muslim/pakistani gangs against White girls. I just wonder what the response on here would be if it was the other way round. Elgrande, Honour killings. they are waaaay too scared to f*** their own peoples kids. thrown down well/stones and all that. white birds are , well, low life, fair game. Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents? Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.
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Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 6.22pm

Quote pefwin at 11 Nov 2015 6.00pm

Quote The Sash at 11 Nov 2015 3.43pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 Nov 2015 3.04pm

My issue with this, generally revolves around the idea that the race of the victim and perpetrators, appear as the headline of the story, and imply a racial causal factor.

Race is a handy deflection from the fact that 85,000 women (and around 12,000 men) will be raped in the UK in any given year, and significantly men will commit almost all 97,000 incidents.

97,000 offences a year, and we go out of our way to avoid thinking that maybe male culture factors might be the problem.

Elgrande,
Honour killings.

they are waaaay too scared to f*** their own peoples kids.
thrown down well/stones and all that.
white birds are , well, low life, fair game.

Kids,tired of being bothered by your pesky parents?
Then leave home, get a job & pay your own bills, while you still know everything.

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elgrande bedford 11 Nov 15 6.29pm
Quote kingdowieonthewall at 11 Nov 2015 6.27pm Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 6.22pm Quote pefwin at 11 Nov 2015 6.00pm Quote The Sash at 11 Nov 2015 3.43pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 Nov 2015 3.04pm My issue with this, generally revolves around the idea that the race of the victim and perpetrators, appear as the headline of the story, and imply a racial causal factor. Note that when rapes involve white perpetrators, race is excluded in most cases from the summary, or if the victim is not white, and the attackers are, the issue of race will not typically be recorded so blatantly (in the UK). Rape is almost predominately an offence of men on women, and we miss that factor entirely when we view it along racial profiles. One factor that will crop up in over 95% of sexual offences is that the perpetrator will be male, and the victim female. Race is a handy deflection from the fact that 85,000 women (and around 12,000 men) will be raped in the UK in any given year, and significantly men will commit almost all 97,000 incidents. But we always seem to try to find deflections from the fact that the problem lies with men (ie race, blaming the victim or mental illness) rather than tackle the fact that men are the issue here (not race, mental health etc). 97,000 offences a year, and we go out of our way to avoid thinking that maybe male culture factors might be the problem. Agree with most of that apart from that top line Jamie - surely enough of a pattern from this and previous cases (Rochdale, Rotherham, Oxford et al) to suggest that race (and I would also guess social vulnerability) is certainly a factor in the choosing of victims in those specific cases. Although I tend towards Jamies's sentiments, there can be no denial that there are cultural or social or class issues (for want of a better term), not race or religious issues within these groups thinking /meme. I am just trying to get my head round this. So if it were gangs of white/British born males targeting Asian Girls that would be social not racial. Surely it's racial as they see the white girls below them,how often do they target Asian/Muslim girls. Every single one of the recent cases,High Wycombe/Aylesbury/Oxford/Rotherham/Rochdale/Dewsbury/Peterbourgh, has been Muslim/pakistani gangs against White girls. I just wonder what the response on here would be if it was the other way round. Elgrande, Honour killings. they are waaaay too scared to f*** their own peoples kids. thrown down well/stones and all that. white birds are , well, low life, fair game. Agree King....But surely that's racial then. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 11 Nov 15 6.29pm

Quote kingdowieonthewall at 11 Nov 2015 6.27pm

Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 6.22pm

Quote pefwin at 11 Nov 2015 6.00pm

Quote The Sash at 11 Nov 2015 3.43pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 11 Nov 2015 3.04pm

My issue with this, generally revolves around the idea that the race of the victim and perpetrators, appear as the headline of the story, and imply a racial causal factor.

Race is a handy deflection from the fact that 85,000 women (and around 12,000 men) will be raped in the UK in any given year, and significantly men will commit almost all 97,000 incidents.

97,000 offences a year, and we go out of our way to avoid thinking that maybe male culture factors might be the problem.

Elgrande,
Honour killings.

they are waaaay too scared to f*** their own peoples kids.
thrown down well/stones and all that.
white birds are , well, low life, fair game.

Agree King....But surely that's racial then.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 11 Nov 15 6.35pm
Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 6.22pm I am just trying to get my head round this. So if it were gangs of white/British born males targeting Asian Girls that would be social not racial. Surely it's racial as they see the white girls below them,how often do they target Asian/Muslim girls. Every single one of the recent cases,High Wycombe/Aylesbury/Oxford/Rotherham/Rochdale/Dewsbury/Peterbourgh, has been Muslim/pakistani gangs against White girls. I just wonder what the response on here would be if it was the other way round. If it was White British raping Asian girls the issue would be with the abhorent cultural traditions and social mores than DNA or religion; often associated with the lower classes rather than an ethnic group. It does not excuse either group from being vile evil ...insert any words you want.... cunds. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."
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Where you have to have an English ... 11 Nov 15 6.35pm

Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 6.22pm

If it was White British raping Asian girls the issue would be with the abhorent cultural traditions and social mores than DNA or religion; often associated with the lower classes rather than an ethnic group.

It does not excuse either group from being vile evil ...insert any words you want.... cunds.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Nov 15 6.41pm
[Link] You lot should be ashamed of yourselves, facking baby rapers.
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You lot should be ashamed of yourselves, facking baby rapers.

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elgrande bedford 11 Nov 15 6.43pm
Quote pefwin at 11 Nov 2015 6.35pm Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 6.22pm I am just trying to get my head round this. So if it were gangs of white/British born males targeting Asian Girls that would be social not racial. Surely it's racial as they see the white girls below them,how often do they target Asian/Muslim girls. Every single one of the recent cases,High Wycombe/Aylesbury/Oxford/Rotherham/Rochdale/Dewsbury/Peterbourgh, has been Muslim/pakistani gangs against White girls. I just wonder what the response on here would be if it was the other way round. If it was White British raping Asian girls the issue would be with the abhorent cultural traditions and social mores than DNA or religion; often associated with the lower classes rather than an ethnic group. It does not excuse either group from being vile evil ...insert any words you want.... cunds. I totally agree with those sentiments,But it would in all the news/Papers as rascist attacks. And that is what I am trying to get across. I do not care what colour the victims are it's a vile crime and WHO ever commits it needs hanging. And as I said earlier in the thread god forbid anything like that happened to either of my Daughters,I would go to prison for life. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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Quote pefwin at 11 Nov 2015 6.35pm

Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 6.22pm

It does not excuse either group from being vile evil ...insert any words you want.... cunds.

I totally agree with those sentiments,But it would in all the news/Papers as rascist attacks.
And that is what I am trying to get across.
I do not care what colour the victims are it's a vile crime and WHO ever commits it needs hanging.
And as I said earlier in the thread god forbid anything like that happened to either of my Daughters,I would go to prison for life.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 11 Nov 15 6.53pm
Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 6.43pm Quote pefwin at 11 Nov 2015 6.35pm Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 6.22pm I am just trying to get my head round this. So if it were gangs of white/British born males targeting Asian Girls that would be social not racial. Surely it's racial as they see the white girls below them,how often do they target Asian/Muslim girls. Every single one of the recent cases,High Wycombe/Aylesbury/Oxford/Rotherham/Rochdale/Dewsbury/Peterbourgh, has been Muslim/pakistani gangs against White girls. I just wonder what the response on here would be if it was the other way round. If it was White British raping Asian girls the issue would be with the abhorent cultural traditions and social mores than DNA or religion; often associated with the lower classes rather than an ethnic group. It does not excuse either group from being vile evil ...insert any words you want.... cunds. I totally agree with those sentiments,But it would in all the news/Papers as rascist attacks. And that is what I am trying to get across. I do not care what colour the victims are it's a vile crime and WHO ever commits it needs hanging. And as I said earlier in the thread god forbid anything like that happened to either of my Daughters,I would go to prison for life. It is an evil world look at the poor Becky Watts court case,today. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."
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Where you have to have an English ... 11 Nov 15 6.53pm

Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 6.43pm

Quote pefwin at 11 Nov 2015 6.35pm

Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 6.22pm

It does not excuse either group from being vile evil ...insert any words you want.... cunds.

It is an evil world look at the poor Becky Watts court case,today.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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Hrolf The Ganger 11 Nov 15 7.13pm
Quote nickgusset at 11 Nov 2015 6.41pm [Link] You lot should be ashamed of yourselves, facking baby rapers. I'd respond to this as I always do. In a country where 85% of the population are snow white, it's hardly a surprise that there are white rapists. It's such a daft comparison, not to mention tasteless. pakistanis make up what percentage of the population ? If we are going to play rapist top trumps then at least keep it sensible. What we want is the truth and a way to prevent similar occurrences.
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You lot should be ashamed of yourselves, facking baby rapers.

I'd respond to this as I always do. In a country where 85% of the population are snow white, it's hardly a surprise that there are white rapists. It's such a daft comparison, not to mention tasteless. pakistanis make up what percentage of the population ?
If we are going to play rapist top trumps then at least keep it sensible. What we want is the truth and a way to prevent similar occurrences.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Nov 15 7.15pm
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 11 Nov 2015 7.13pm Quote nickgusset at 11 Nov 2015 6.41pm [Link] You lot should be ashamed of yourselves, facking baby rapers. I'd respond to this as I always do. In a country where 85% of the population are snow white, it's hardly a surprise that there are white rapists. It's such a daft comparison, not to mention tasteless. pakistanis make up what percentage of the population ? If we are going to play rapist top trumps then at least keep it sensible. What we want is the truth and a way to prevent similar occurrences. Woooosh
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Quote nickgusset at 11 Nov 2015 6.41pm

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You lot should be ashamed of yourselves, facking baby rapers.

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