How about 15 white people raping you? Is it OK to develop an issue with whites then?

How about if there are thousands of others suffering the same fate? Are they "waycist biguts" for "developing an issue"? What about the families torn apart as a result? Same?

How over-represented must the criminal practices of a demographic of society be, before we place the investigation of systemic culturally-condoned atrocities above how "squirmy" it makes left-wing hand-wringing apologists like you feel?

The Jay report tells us that there is a problem, and that idiots like you have exacerbated it by sticking their heads in the sand while the industrial-scale rape of young children continues, for fear of lifting the lid on negative aspects of our "wonderful melting pot". I suggest you read it, in particular the testimonies:

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Emotive? You fcuking bet. These are the lives of innocent children that have been ruined.

It was a discussion about how we should view whole groups of people in society, the majority of whom are disgusted by rape too. Someone essentially throwing "what if asians raped you?" at me is hardly useful or adult. It's crass and racist because of course I'm going to develop a certain mentallity if I'm the direct victim of a specific crime. It's not representative.

Rape is a horrific crime, whether you are raped by one person or a group and every rapist deserves their cock cut off in my view regardless of colour or creed. Find them and arrest them. If it's specific to a community do the same. Where have I said otherwise? As I said earlier "we just need to enforce the law for all, avoiding those on the left who think 'we can't be seen to be racist so will turn a blind eye to crime' and those on the right who are determined to make everything about the race or religion rather than the criminals at hand" so no not 'idiots like' me 'sticking their heads in the sand' mate.

I'm not going to get into a "my rape is worse than your rape" crass conversation as it demeans all victims of rape.

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"we just need to enforce the law for all, avoiding those on the left who think 'we can't be seen to be racist so will turn a blind eye to crime' and those on the right who are determined to make everything about the race or religion rather than the criminals at hand"

I've stated my view quite clearly. It's clear, it's balanced. I've said that where people are found to have been rapists I don't approve of anything obscurring the fact.

As for 'rape equality', whatever that is, I'm not about to tell any victims of rape that their experience is more or less important or scarring than any other victims of rape. Sorry about that.

Edited by bilbo (12 Nov 2015 12.57am)

A significant factor is the need for power, and the right of entitlement. The problem here isn't that some rapists are x race or culture, but that across the board of offenders there is a very significant number of males who regard consent and women as being less important than their 'right to f**k' women. Rather than just focus on a minority to deal with a problem, we should be looking at why so many men of different races, culture etc believe they have the right to subject women to sexual abuse.

When you look closer to the culture in pakistani communities, you'll see the same pattern in offending - a low status of women, the power of male authority and how status of men is linked to sexual dominance of women. That the problem is that they step outside their community, has been exacberated by the failure of the police force and its low regard specifically for young women of very low status (see Rochdale).

The problem of rape isn't resolved by focusing on a minority subsections of offender, but its entirely about men, power, status and the regard for women within society. First you need to focus on the majority group which is men.

In reality the reason that Muslim men and Christian men, and Hindu men and atheist men etc commit sexual violence against women is based is largely the same - Not different.

Status, power, authority, value are the issue. A lot of men who aren't rapists can have a rather blaise towards women and sex, that could constitute a predatory behaviour, in which they define their behaviour as acceptable, moral or ethical, simply because it is not actually illegal (i.e. taking advantage of a situation, rather than say acting in an ethical or responsible manner towards a drunk woman).

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Not to diminish the respect of that generation, but its important to remember that during WWII that rape by armed servicemen in Europe was a problem for the allies - The US 101st Airborne, for example, lost more troops to offences of rape in France, than to enemy action, and the horror of the soviet rape across Germany is well documented. Similarly in Vietnam and presumably most wars, you'll tend to see a massive spike in offences committed by servicemen (especially when pressed into service).

In terms of under Hitler - The Third Reich was no better rape in occupied territories was common place.

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Your very valid comment highlighted in red above has been overlooked by many on here.

Ridiculous comparisons with a 1949 Israeli rape case and trying to play down the fact that Muslims participating in gang rape is a growing problem makes the left leaning on here look very silly and/or irresponsible.