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After watching the very annoying Question Time last night I have concluded that many people seem to be focused on what ISIL want us to do and what will happen after any assault on them and the loss of lives etc. This is all the language of fear. We must not worry about what ISIL want and how they are playing us, we must destroy them in the territory they hold and we must round up and imprison or deport anyone involved with them. There is no negotiation to be had, there is no easy fix. There is no chance of coming out of this without innocent lives being lost, maybe even here in Britain.
Austerity, you don't know what it means. Hmmm, I don't think you do? Do you understand the difference between austerity measures and poverty? Slightly pedantic. Austerity is also a bad economic condition that does not allow for luxury. That implies deprivation. Deprivation does not necessarily make anyone genuinely poor. You know exactly what I meant. You do assume an awful lot but in my view you're still well off the mark! There are some very interesting papers on austerity and sincerely, I think it's worth looking at one. Opinions are polarised. Cuts are relatively easy for a government to make on the public sector but can be very damaging in the longer-term. They can have a negative impact on the very situation they were trying to address in the first place. I've never even mentioned poverty. My original post was in response to yours about dealing with ISIS - they need to be exterminated like a nest of rats where they currently are or else they will regroup and set up elsewhere. My fear is that because of cuts we have lost the capacity to contribute anything effective on the ground. A few extra drones will not replace all the troops and equipment we've lost in recent years. Do we really need a replacement for Trident when we can't deal with ISIS? Amen
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Poverty is relative. All of us are poor to someone I'm sure. Too much self righteous bleeding heart whining on this site. Everything is relative, especially when you wish to dismiss it. I'm not in poverty. But I come from a family who were. A government isn't just for the successes in society. That was how the Victoria era was run. While I agree that the state must protect itself from the feckless and those who hate it or wish to abuse it...collectively not a small number....It's also true that we need to tend to our own....Good, bad or indifferent. You cannot compare Victorian poverty with current levels. That is the point. People who visit food banks are probably lighting a fag on the way and visiting the off license on the way home. The other day there was outrage because it was suggested that the hard up should cancel their paid TV subscriptions.
How surprising that you should "Oh dear" me. I have dared to be honest.
Many of the visitors to food banks have cars, iphones and Sky/Virgin TV accounts. They know the local well meaning food bank set up by some vicar and his helpers won't turn them away! Just park the car a few streets away, turn the iphone off and go into "helpless mode" for their weekly shop. talk about off thread topic. But... Although there are some food banks that you can turn up at and just recieve food, the vast majority will only give food if you have the requisite vouchers which you have to apply for from citizens advice, GP's or socialservices etc. It's a fallacy that it's a free food for all perpetuated by sections of the media who take unusual cases and extrapolate them to kid readers into thinking it's the norm.
The same chancers will be getting their hands on food bank vouchers whilst enjoying all the luxuries bought with their dole money. Examples? *Awaits its in the Daily Hail retort*
£40 worth of food is hardly 'bags bursting' is it? People have sky and iphones under contract. Perhaps they got these things when they could afford it and the contracts are yet to run out. One man who lost his £60k job used a food bank. Probably be even harder up money wise as I'd imagine his outgoings are quite high. A terrible article all in all in the usual Mail vein of looking down on people.
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After watching the very annoying Question Time last night I have concluded that many people seem to be focused on what ISIL want us to do and what will happen after any assault on them and the loss of lives etc. This is all the language of fear. We must not worry about what ISIL want and how they are playing us, we must destroy them in the territory they hold and we must round up and imprison or deport anyone involved with them. There is no negotiation to be had, there is no easy fix. There is no chance of coming out of this without innocent lives being lost, maybe even here in Britain.
Austerity, you don't know what it means. Hmmm, I don't think you do? Do you understand the difference between austerity measures and poverty? Slightly pedantic. Austerity is also a bad economic condition that does not allow for luxury. That implies deprivation. Deprivation does not necessarily make anyone genuinely poor. You know exactly what I meant. You do assume an awful lot but in my view you're still well off the mark! There are some very interesting papers on austerity and sincerely, I think it's worth looking at one. Opinions are polarised. Cuts are relatively easy for a government to make on the public sector but can be very damaging in the longer-term. They can have a negative impact on the very situation they were trying to address in the first place. I've never even mentioned poverty. My original post was in response to yours about dealing with ISIS - they need to be exterminated like a nest of rats where they currently are or else they will regroup and set up elsewhere. My fear is that because of cuts we have lost the capacity to contribute anything effective on the ground. A few extra drones will not replace all the troops and equipment we've lost in recent years. Do we really need a replacement for Trident when we can't deal with ISIS? Amen Well that cleared things up. I'm afraid your last sentence stuck out. Of course we need to replace Trident.
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After watching the very annoying Question Time last night I have concluded that many people seem to be focused on what ISIL want us to do and what will happen after any assault on them and the loss of lives etc. This is all the language of fear. We must not worry about what ISIL want and how they are playing us, we must destroy them in the territory they hold and we must round up and imprison or deport anyone involved with them. There is no negotiation to be had, there is no easy fix. There is no chance of coming out of this without innocent lives being lost, maybe even here in Britain.
Austerity, you don't know what it means. Hmmm, I don't think you do? Do you understand the difference between austerity measures and poverty? Slightly pedantic. Austerity is also a bad economic condition that does not allow for luxury. That implies deprivation. Deprivation does not necessarily make anyone genuinely poor. You know exactly what I meant. You do assume an awful lot but in my view you're still well off the mark! There are some very interesting papers on austerity and sincerely, I think it's worth looking at one. Opinions are polarised. Cuts are relatively easy for a government to make on the public sector but can be very damaging in the longer-term. They can have a negative impact on the very situation they were trying to address in the first place. I've never even mentioned poverty. My original post was in response to yours about dealing with ISIS - they need to be exterminated like a nest of rats where they currently are or else they will regroup and set up elsewhere. My fear is that because of cuts we have lost the capacity to contribute anything effective on the ground. A few extra drones will not replace all the troops and equipment we've lost in recent years. Do we really need a replacement for Trident when we can't deal with ISIS? Amen Well that cleared things up. I'm afraid your last sentence stuck out. Of course we need to replace Trident. Except that we don't. All tidied up for you.
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After watching the very annoying Question Time last night I have concluded that many people seem to be focused on what ISIL want us to do and what will happen after any assault on them and the loss of lives etc. This is all the language of fear. We must not worry about what ISIL want and how they are playing us, we must destroy them in the territory they hold and we must round up and imprison or deport anyone involved with them. There is no negotiation to be had, there is no easy fix. There is no chance of coming out of this without innocent lives being lost, maybe even here in Britain.
Austerity, you don't know what it means. Hmmm, I don't think you do? Do you understand the difference between austerity measures and poverty? Slightly pedantic. Austerity is also a bad economic condition that does not allow for luxury. That implies deprivation. Deprivation does not necessarily make anyone genuinely poor. You know exactly what I meant. You do assume an awful lot but in my view you're still well off the mark! There are some very interesting papers on austerity and sincerely, I think it's worth looking at one. Opinions are polarised. Cuts are relatively easy for a government to make on the public sector but can be very damaging in the longer-term. They can have a negative impact on the very situation they were trying to address in the first place. I've never even mentioned poverty. My original post was in response to yours about dealing with ISIS - they need to be exterminated like a nest of rats where they currently are or else they will regroup and set up elsewhere. My fear is that because of cuts we have lost the capacity to contribute anything effective on the ground. A few extra drones will not replace all the troops and equipment we've lost in recent years. Do we really need a replacement for Trident when we can't deal with ISIS? Amen Well that cleared things up. I'm afraid your last sentence stuck out. Of course we need to replace Trident. Except that we don't. All tidied up for you.
Of all the opinions held by our friends on the left. This is the dumbest.
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After watching the very annoying Question Time last night I have concluded that many people seem to be focused on what ISIL want us to do and what will happen after any assault on them and the loss of lives etc. This is all the language of fear. We must not worry about what ISIL want and how they are playing us, we must destroy them in the territory they hold and we must round up and imprison or deport anyone involved with them. There is no negotiation to be had, there is no easy fix. There is no chance of coming out of this without innocent lives being lost, maybe even here in Britain.
Austerity, you don't know what it means. Hmmm, I don't think you do? Do you understand the difference between austerity measures and poverty? Slightly pedantic. Austerity is also a bad economic condition that does not allow for luxury. That implies deprivation. Deprivation does not necessarily make anyone genuinely poor. You know exactly what I meant. You do assume an awful lot but in my view you're still well off the mark! There are some very interesting papers on austerity and sincerely, I think it's worth looking at one. Opinions are polarised. Cuts are relatively easy for a government to make on the public sector but can be very damaging in the longer-term. They can have a negative impact on the very situation they were trying to address in the first place. I've never even mentioned poverty. My original post was in response to yours about dealing with ISIS - they need to be exterminated like a nest of rats where they currently are or else they will regroup and set up elsewhere. My fear is that because of cuts we have lost the capacity to contribute anything effective on the ground. A few extra drones will not replace all the troops and equipment we've lost in recent years. Do we really need a replacement for Trident when we can't deal with ISIS? Amen Well that cleared things up. I'm afraid your last sentence stuck out. Of course we need to replace Trident. The question isn't whether we need to replace Trident, its really what do we replace it with. Like for like is another 'defence white elephant'.
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After watching the very annoying Question Time last night I have concluded that many people seem to be focused on what ISIL want us to do and what will happen after any assault on them and the loss of lives etc. This is all the language of fear. We must not worry about what ISIL want and how they are playing us, we must destroy them in the territory they hold and we must round up and imprison or deport anyone involved with them. There is no negotiation to be had, there is no easy fix. There is no chance of coming out of this without innocent lives being lost, maybe even here in Britain.
Austerity, you don't know what it means. Hmmm, I don't think you do? Do you understand the difference between austerity measures and poverty? Slightly pedantic. Austerity is also a bad economic condition that does not allow for luxury. That implies deprivation. Deprivation does not necessarily make anyone genuinely poor. You know exactly what I meant. You do assume an awful lot but in my view you're still well off the mark! There are some very interesting papers on austerity and sincerely, I think it's worth looking at one. Opinions are polarised. Cuts are relatively easy for a government to make on the public sector but can be very damaging in the longer-term. They can have a negative impact on the very situation they were trying to address in the first place. I've never even mentioned poverty. My original post was in response to yours about dealing with ISIS - they need to be exterminated like a nest of rats where they currently are or else they will regroup and set up elsewhere. My fear is that because of cuts we have lost the capacity to contribute anything effective on the ground. A few extra drones will not replace all the troops and equipment we've lost in recent years. Do we really need a replacement for Trident when we can't deal with ISIS? Amen Well that cleared things up. I'm afraid your last sentence stuck out. Of course we need to replace Trident. The question isn't whether we need to replace Trident, its really what do we replace it with. Like for like is another 'defence white elephant'.
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After watching the very annoying Question Time last night I have concluded that many people seem to be focused on what ISIL want us to do and what will happen after any assault on them and the loss of lives etc. This is all the language of fear. We must not worry about what ISIL want and how they are playing us, we must destroy them in the territory they hold and we must round up and imprison or deport anyone involved with them. There is no negotiation to be had, there is no easy fix. There is no chance of coming out of this without innocent lives being lost, maybe even here in Britain.
Austerity, you don't know what it means. Hmmm, I don't think you do? Do you understand the difference between austerity measures and poverty? Slightly pedantic. Austerity is also a bad economic condition that does not allow for luxury. That implies deprivation. Deprivation does not necessarily make anyone genuinely poor. You know exactly what I meant. You do assume an awful lot but in my view you're still well off the mark! There are some very interesting papers on austerity and sincerely, I think it's worth looking at one. Opinions are polarised. Cuts are relatively easy for a government to make on the public sector but can be very damaging in the longer-term. They can have a negative impact on the very situation they were trying to address in the first place. I've never even mentioned poverty. My original post was in response to yours about dealing with ISIS - they need to be exterminated like a nest of rats where they currently are or else they will regroup and set up elsewhere. My fear is that because of cuts we have lost the capacity to contribute anything effective on the ground. A few extra drones will not replace all the troops and equipment we've lost in recent years. Do we really need a replacement for Trident when we can't deal with ISIS? Amen Well that cleared things up. I'm afraid your last sentence stuck out. Of course we need to replace Trident. Except that we don't. All tidied up for you.
Of all the opinions held by our friends on the left. This is the dumbest.
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After watching the very annoying Question Time last night I have concluded that many people seem to be focused on what ISIL want us to do and what will happen after any assault on them and the loss of lives etc. This is all the language of fear. We must not worry about what ISIL want and how they are playing us, we must destroy them in the territory they hold and we must round up and imprison or deport anyone involved with them. There is no negotiation to be had, there is no easy fix. There is no chance of coming out of this without innocent lives being lost, maybe even here in Britain.
Austerity, you don't know what it means. Hmmm, I don't think you do? Do you understand the difference between austerity measures and poverty? Slightly pedantic. Austerity is also a bad economic condition that does not allow for luxury. That implies deprivation. Deprivation does not necessarily make anyone genuinely poor. You know exactly what I meant. You do assume an awful lot but in my view you're still well off the mark! There are some very interesting papers on austerity and sincerely, I think it's worth looking at one. Opinions are polarised. Cuts are relatively easy for a government to make on the public sector but can be very damaging in the longer-term. They can have a negative impact on the very situation they were trying to address in the first place. I've never even mentioned poverty. My original post was in response to yours about dealing with ISIS - they need to be exterminated like a nest of rats where they currently are or else they will regroup and set up elsewhere. My fear is that because of cuts we have lost the capacity to contribute anything effective on the ground. A few extra drones will not replace all the troops and equipment we've lost in recent years. Do we really need a replacement for Trident when we can't deal with ISIS? Amen Well that cleared things up. I'm afraid your last sentence stuck out. Of course we need to replace Trident. The question isn't whether we need to replace Trident, its really what do we replace it with. Like for like is another 'defence white elephant'. As i said, replacing Trident is a no-brain idea and a complete waste of money.
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