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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 14 Sep 16 5.17pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

Ok.

I think I'm implying of course that organised crime is actually fairer in terms of consequences than the UK banking system. That it seems to actually be true is concerning.

 


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.TUX. Flag 14 Sep 16 5.45pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I think I'm implying of course that organised crime is actually fairer in terms of consequences than the UK banking system. That it seems to actually be true is concerning.

Would've sufficed

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 14 Sep 16 6.16pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I think I'm implying of course that organised crime is actually fairer in terms of consequences than the UK banking system. That it seems to actually be true is concerning.

It's an interesting point.....Still, without a banking system economies collapse....without organized crime you just encourage the mean b******s into the army....where killing people or rather training to has a state function and purpose.

What kind of banking system could be implemented that would be fairer? I'd like one but unless its worldwide it's impractical.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Sep 16 3.04pm

May to give Falklands back? Where is the press furore?
More double standards.

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Remember back in January 2016 when Jeremy Corbyn suggested that Britain and Argentina should enter negotiations to co-operate over the Falkland Islands so that both countries can share in the prosperity, rather than restricting economic opportunities through animosity, trade sanctions, antagonism and militaristic posturing?


Remember how the Tories and the right-wing press spouted lie after lie after lie about what Corbyn was suggesting and even tried to claim that Corbyn's policy was to give away the Falkland Islands?

Remember how the Tory defence minister Michael Fallon even claimed that Jeremy Corbyn is "a bigger threat to the Falklands than Argentina"?

Remember how this hyperbolic nonsense was spouted ad nauseum by the mainstream press and how David Cameron even got in on the act by including it in one of his most incredibly evasive* and downright dishonest "answers" ever at PMQs (see image) in which he lied five times in the space of thirty seconds?

Fast-forward just eight months and Theresa May has sent Alan Duncan over to Argentina in order to come up with a deal to ... erm ... work out a deal for Argentina and the UK to co-operate over the Falkland Islands.

Where are the shrieking headlines about the Tories surrendering to the Argies? Where are the bile dripping editorials? Why isn't Michael Fallon attacking his Tory colleague as "a bigger threat to the Falklands than Argentina" for doing exactly what Jeremy Corbyn suggested just eight months previously?

The Falkland Islanders are apparently delighted that the Tories have pinched Jeremy Corbyn's idea, and are rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of an end to the decades of crippling trade sanctions on hydrocarbons, fishing, shipping and tourism.

Not only did the Tories (and their attack-dogs in the mainstream press) savage Jeremy Corbyn for suggesting an entirely sensible policy of economic co-operation between the UK and Argentina rather than militaristic antagonism, the Tories have actually gone and nicked it off him within the space of a year!

The lack of bile-dripping articles in the mainstream press about how Theresa May is "a bigger threat to the Falklands than the Argentinians" for doing precisely what Jeremy Corbyn was slaughtered for proposing just eight months ago is indicative of the extraordinary levels of pro-Tory bias of the UK mainstream press.

 

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God you're an idiot.

Try reading a news story and not a blog. We're not giving the Falklands back, sovereignty isn't even on the table for discussion.

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Argentina now has a leader who isn't a bat-s*** crazy woman and is being reasonable in trying to move things forward for their own sake.

Direct transport links, easing restrictions on ships that visited the islands, helping them recover bodies from the war.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 16 Sep 16 4.12pm

Originally posted by Stuk

God you're an idiot.

Try reading a news story and not a blog. We're not giving the Falklands back, sovereignty isn't even on the table for discussion.

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Argentina now has a leader who isn't a bat-s*** crazy woman and is being reasonable in trying to move things forward for their own sake.

Direct transport links, easing restrictions on ships that visited the islands, helping them recover bodies from the war.


Why are you calling god an idiot?

I stand by the point of the article that Corbyn was crucified for the same idea. Double standards by the press.

Interestingly, I think that we are now being lead by a bat shit crazy woman.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset


Why are you calling god an idiot?

I stand by the point of the article that Corbyn was crucified for the same idea. Double standards by the press.

Interestingly, I think that we are now being lead by a bat shit crazy woman.

It's not double standards.

The t*** you idolise wanted a power sharing deal. This is nothing of the sort.

I don't doubt that you do, but Fernandez de Kirchner really was a total f***ing mental case.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 17 Sep 16 2.24pm

Originally posted by Stuk

It's not double standards.

The t*** you idolise wanted a power sharing deal. This is nothing of the sort.

I don't doubt that you do, but Fernandez de Kirchner really was a total f***ing mental case.

Apparently Corbyn said on ITV breakfast a while back, that the wishes of Falklanderians (made up word of the day) would be put first.

This would mean that a deal where sovereignty is handed over to Argentinia or shared with them won't happen. A bit different to the 'Corbyn to give Falklands to Argentina' line taken by some of the MSM.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

May to give Falklands back? Where is the press furore?
More double standards.

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Remember back in January 2016 when Jeremy Corbyn suggested that Britain and Argentina should enter negotiations to co-operate over the Falkland Islands so that both countries can share in the prosperity, rather than restricting economic opportunities through animosity, trade sanctions, antagonism and militaristic posturing?


Remember how the Tories and the right-wing press spouted lie after lie after lie about what Corbyn was suggesting and even tried to claim that Corbyn's policy was to give away the Falkland Islands?

Remember how the Tory defence minister Michael Fallon even claimed that Jeremy Corbyn is "a bigger threat to the Falklands than Argentina"?

Remember how this hyperbolic nonsense was spouted ad nauseum by the mainstream press and how David Cameron even got in on the act by including it in one of his most incredibly evasive* and downright dishonest "answers" ever at PMQs (see image) in which he lied five times in the space of thirty seconds?

Fast-forward just eight months and Theresa May has sent Alan Duncan over to Argentina in order to come up with a deal to ... erm ... work out a deal for Argentina and the UK to co-operate over the Falkland Islands.

Where are the shrieking headlines about the Tories surrendering to the Argies? Where are the bile dripping editorials? Why isn't Michael Fallon attacking his Tory colleague as "a bigger threat to the Falklands than Argentina" for doing exactly what Jeremy Corbyn suggested just eight months previously?

The Falkland Islanders are apparently delighted that the Tories have pinched Jeremy Corbyn's idea, and are rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of an end to the decades of crippling trade sanctions on hydrocarbons, fishing, shipping and tourism.

Not only did the Tories (and their attack-dogs in the mainstream press) savage Jeremy Corbyn for suggesting an entirely sensible policy of economic co-operation between the UK and Argentina rather than militaristic antagonism, the Tories have actually gone and nicked it off him within the space of a year!

The lack of bile-dripping articles in the mainstream press about how Theresa May is "a bigger threat to the Falklands than the Argentinians" for doing precisely what Jeremy Corbyn was slaughtered for proposing just eight months ago is indicative of the extraordinary levels of pro-Tory bias of the UK mainstream press.

Firstly, we can never give the Falklands "back" because Argentina have no legitimate claim to them.

Secondly, your political mindset has reached the status of loony.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 19 Sep 16 3.13pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Firstly, we can never give the Falklands "back" because Argentina have no legitimate claim to them.

Secondly, your political mindset has reached the status of loony.


First paragraph. Fair point
Second paragraph. Cobblers

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Oct 16 12.20pm

Funny how the mail have twisted the migrant children to Devon story compared to the other example.

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Funny how the mail have twisted the migrant children to Devon story compared to the other example.

All this demonstrates is how each side of the argument apply the same tactics of spin.

It is pointless arguing with people who would let anyone and everyone into this country on any basis because they refuse to see the ultimate consequences of such a policy. It's like the part of the brain that can understand the concept of future has been removed.

 

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