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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 04 Sep 17 11.23pm

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

dont think so...to my knowledge cat a estate from today, dont know exactly when the green went smoke free, possibly officially today aswell.

best to google if you want more info on it, these walls have ears

Doesn't help having Holloway in yer sig!

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 05 Sep 17 10.31am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Bring back hanging, that would reduce the prison population.

No you wouldn't, unless you introduced it retrospectively.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 05 Sep 17 10.34am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well yeah....but I'm still not giving prisoners the vote.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Sep 2017 8.13pm)

I think its an option, that to some degree we should empower prisoners to have some political representation - Or we start looking a the prison service and probation service as a service with proper budgets, goals and funding - rather than a system to win votes. Effectively someone has to hold the service accountable towards providing the roles that it needs to function in providing protection of society and rehabilitation.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 05 Sep 17 10.37am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Only by a tiny amount.

Proper jobs would have a far better impact.

This. Proper jobs, training and education, along with services aimed at dealing with things like illiteracy, anger management, drug treatment etc.

A study of young offenders in the US back in the late 90s, found that the single most common difference between young offenders in terms of successful rehabilitation was obtaining the General Diploma of Education in prison.

Yet year on year, the UK and US have been cutting funding of educational services in Prisons.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 05 Sep 17 10.41am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

No you wouldn't, unless you introduced it retrospectively.

Now you're talking. While we are at it, perhaps we could dig a few of the dead ones up and hang them too - like they did with Oliver Cromwell.

 


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