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 Stuk  Top half 05 Feb 16 1.47pm |
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Originally posted by Apollofuzz
Yes the golf course is purely an "Expression of interest" to test the water, but the Kenley Areodrome one is a planning application, along with another 2 "Expressions of interest" to Caterham/Chaldon (157 dwellings & 290 odd in Roffes lane), along with 2 (welcome) planning applications for the derelict Rose and Young building in Caterham. One a Hotel & restaurant and the other for more flats. Along with plans to convert Quadrant House to flats, We have already lost the Caterham 7 showroom to retirement Flats. Seems like a lot of development in a very small area. If they build on the golf course it would be bonkers. Kenley while only an application is likely to be granted as they already build a load on the perimeter of it. Rose & Young is twenty years too late and what the hell demand is there for a hotel? There's a travelodge already at Wapses lodge. That should be flats being that close to the station.
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| the_mcanuff_stuff Caterham 05 Feb 16 2.03pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Controlling immigration is the most sensible and easiest solution to the housing crisis. Unless we bring in euthanasia the ageing population will continue to be a problem. Building more homes, means building more schools, hospitals etc and we do not have spare land without building on farmland/floodplain or other unsuitable land like beaches, forest, moors or marshland. The left want more immigrants to come because they believe they will vote Labour.... there cannot be any other logical explanation. That doesn't make sense either though, Hoof. They can't vote. At least not until they get citizenship.
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| Apollofuzz On the edge of reason 05 Feb 16 2.07pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
If they build on the golf course it would be bonkers. Kenley while only an application is likely to be granted as they already build a load on the perimeter of it. Rose & Young is twenty years too late and what the hell demand is there for a hotel? There's a travelodge already at Wapses lodge. That should be flats being that close to the station. Yes I reckon the Kenley one is a done deal (especially after the mysterious fire)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Feb 16 2.08pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
If they build on the golf course it would be bonkers. Kenley while only an application is likely to be granted as they already build a load on the perimeter of it. Rose & Young is twenty years too late and what the hell demand is there for a hotel? There's a travelodge already at Wapses lodge. That should be flats being that close to the station. They're not hoping/planning to build on the golf course, just at the entrance where no golf is played and nothing else it's used for as far as I know. Anyway, I thought the memberships in golf clubs was on the decline. Maybe one or two having to sell up might be a solution.
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| Stuk Top half 05 Feb 16 2.29pm |
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Originally posted by Apollofuzz
Yes I reckon the Kenley one is a done deal (especially after the mysterious fire) There was a very similar mystery fire at one of the largest (unoccupied) properties on the Brighton road in Purley, next thing it's being converted in to a load of flats. Quadrant house could easily have another level or two added. The Rose & Young owner didn't have to pay rates if I recall, which is why he was happy to just let the land value increase and do nothing with it. I think it had to be done via CPO in the end. Caterham being forced to move to Crawley was daft, they should of been allowed to stay on that site as you say.
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| Stuk Top half 05 Feb 16 2.41pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
They're not hoping/planning to build on the golf course, just at the entrance where no golf is played and nothing else it's used for as far as I know. Anyway, I thought the memberships in golf clubs was on the decline. Maybe one or two having to sell up might be a solution. There is a driving range, the access road and the 10th hole on the front of the site. Memberships are in decline, but you don't need just members to still be a busy golf course.
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| Apollofuzz On the edge of reason 05 Feb 16 3.03pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
They're not hoping/planning to build on the golf course, just at the entrance where no golf is played and nothing else it's used for as far as I know. Anyway, I thought the memberships in golf clubs was on the decline. Maybe one or two having to sell up might be a solution. Even with super clever planning you would be extremely hard pushed to fit 1000 homes on the space in front (I guess you mean the driving range) of the golf course. I was under the impression it was the whole golf course. As Stuk said membership is on the decline and they have the other course in Woldingham (Maybe they will build on that one)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Feb 16 3.12pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
There is a driving range, the access road and the 10th hole on the front of the site. Memberships are in decline, but you don't need just members to still be a busy golf course. Sounds like they can sihft things around a bit then. It's not Gleneagles. When you look at the SE/rest of UK divide you can sort of see how the gentrification of London and shifting the poor to Hull etc is one of very few workable solutions, unpalatable as it is. Or we could all vote out of the EU for the sake of 0.5% - 1% loss of GDP and 10% higher new car costs and snap up all the single bored flat owners/tenants (female ones) The rise in population is putting a dent in the quality of life for the benefit of large tax avoiding businesses and Westminster performance figures.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Feb 16 3.16pm |
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Originally posted by Apollofuzz
Even with super clever planning you would be extremely hard pushed to fit 1000 homes on the space in front (I guess you mean the driving range) of the golf course. I was under the impression it was the whole golf course. As Stuk said membership is on the decline and they have the other course in Woldingham (Maybe they will build on that one)
2 big plots in Riddlesdown used for nothing, not even dog walking. One is owned by a house owner and the one up Mitchley towards Sanderstead roundabout you'd break an ankle trying to walk on. There is quite a bit of green around, just no one wants any more people near them. Stay away from multi-cultural areas, vote in the EU, vote no to any housebuilding.
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| Stuk Top half 05 Feb 16 3.20pm |
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Originally posted by Apollofuzz
Even with super clever planning you would be extremely hard pushed to fit 1000 homes on the space in front (I guess you mean the driving range) of the golf course. I was under the impression it was the whole golf course. As Stuk said membership is on the decline and they have the other course in Woldingham (Maybe they will build on that one)
You couldn't get even a hundred on the range, it's the whole course that's been put forward. They've got Woldingham, Westerham, Addington, Surrey and Godstone in their group. I don't think they want to build on or sell any of them but have put the feelers out to see if a crazy offer makes it worthwhile.
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| Stuk Top half 05 Feb 16 3.25pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Sounds like they can sihft things around a bit then. It's not Gleneagles. When you look at the SE/rest of UK divide you can sort of see how the gentrification of London and shifting the poor to Hull etc is one of very few workable solutions, unpalatable as it is. Or we could all vote out of the EU for the sake of 0.5% - 1% loss of GDP and 10% higher new car costs and snap up all the single bored flat owners/tenants (female ones) The rise in population is putting a dent in the quality of life for the benefit of large tax avoiding businesses and Westminster performance figures. Nope, they'd need all the land and therefore the course. I'm all for shifting people around the country but the b******s just wont stay there. Even the Scots/Irish/Welsh populations in the south east add enormous pressure to the south east. Not to mention the northerners who come down south Monday to Friday to work and then f*** off back for the weekends.
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-TUX-  Alphabettispaghetti 05 Feb 16 7.01pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
So by that logic there would be no private rental market whatsoever which would mean that if you cant afford to buy a place and cant get a council home then your only option would be to stay with your family for the rest of your natural! 1. These people should be taxed to the hilt to make +2 property ownership not worth the effort, This is the point you responded to. Of course there will always be a bloody rental market but the clue/emphasis is on 'not making it worth the effort'. Jeez!
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