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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 10 Feb 16 7.34pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Bert the Head

Just as we were getting smug that only (some) Americans are that mad, the English nutter start to reveal themselves too!

I refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkell v Pressdram.

 


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View Andy_G's Profile Andy_G Flag Wimbledon 10 Feb 16 7.59pm Send a Private Message to Andy_G Add Andy_G as a friend

Saunders has no chance. He'll do ok in the north but with get wiped out in the south. Trump might make it but if he does that'll virtually hand it to Hilary, who I actually think will do ok as President.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 10 Feb 16 8.14pm

Originally posted by Andy_G

Saunders has no chance. He'll do ok in the north but with get wiped out in the south. Trump might make it but if he does that'll virtually hand it to Hilary, who I actually think will do ok as President.

Neither Saunders or Trump will make the election, if they do, it'll be a strange situation, but I think Saunders will go over better with liberal republicans, better than Trump will with Conservative Democrats.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 10 Feb 16 8.19pm

A lot of people are kicking against the status quo both sides of the pond...

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 10 Feb 16 8.20pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

I refer you to the reply given in the case of Arkell v Pressdram.

Tired and emotional?

 


"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 10 Feb 16 8.30pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

The fact that someone as anti-gay rights; anti-choice, anti-social safety net and pro-business as Kasich can look like the moderate choice on the right, tells you all you need to know about the other candidates. The rest are competing to be God's vessel to bring about the end of days.

Clinton lacks the authenticity and liberal bona fides of Sanders, which is why she's slipping backwards. Same as last time around (against Obama): the more the Democratic base see of her, the less they like her. She's also one "just discovered" email away from implosion as the national candidate. Sanders has a very populist message, but his agenda is going to scare the crap out of a lot of people.

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 10 Feb 16 8.34pm

Originally posted by Ray in Houston

The fact that someone as anti-gay rights; anti-choice, anti-social safety net and pro-business as Kasich can look like the moderate choice on the right, tells you all you need to know about the other candidates. The rest are competing to be God's vessel to bring about the end of days.

Clinton lacks the authenticity and liberal bona fides of Sanders, which is why she's slipping backwards. Same as last time around (against Obama): the more the Democratic base see of her, the less they like her. She's also one "just discovered" email away from implosion as the national candidate. Sanders has a very populist message, but his agenda is going to scare the crap out of a lot of people.

Are you suggesting that Bush and Blair do / did not believe in the end of days?

 


"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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View rob1969's Profile rob1969 Flag Banstead Surrey 10 Feb 16 9.01pm Send a Private Message to rob1969 Add rob1969 as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Quite, but where should he go?

I hope for the republican party's sake he doesn't win.

HOPE FOR ALL OUR SAKES HE NEVER GETS TO THE WHITE HOUSE

Edited by rob1969 (10 Feb 2016 9.03pm)

 

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View leifandersonshair's Profile leifandersonshair Flag Newport 10 Feb 16 9.07pm Send a Private Message to leifandersonshair Add leifandersonshair as a friend

I wonder how low turnout would be for Trump vs Sanders? Both have a core of support from solid nutjobs on left and right, but Trump is too racist for the moderate right/centre, and Sanders too socialist for the moderate left/centre. Would people stay away, or vote on a 'who I hate/fear more' basis?

 

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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 10 Feb 16 9.21pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin

Are you suggesting that Bush and Blair do / did not believe in the end of days?

Blair, I'm pretty sure, was faking it. Bush is still too confused from substance abuse in his early days to know what he believes - he was happy just to be able to verbally express a complete thought.

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 10 Feb 16 9.32pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by leifandersonshair

I wonder how low turnout would be for Trump vs Sanders? Both have a core of support from solid nutjobs on left and right, but Trump is too racist for the moderate right/centre, and Sanders too socialist for the moderate left/centre. Would people stay away, or vote on a 'who I hate/fear more' basis?


You are correct on the right: Trump is the logical end result of what Reagan started when he campaigned on his "government is the problem" platform. They've been repeating and exaggerating that tenet ever since, and so they should not be surprised that the establishment candidates now find themselves getting trumped by anti-establishment outsiders like Trump and Cruz*.

* Cruz is actually an establishment insider, but his supporters don't really care because they're stupid.


Clinton is trying to be a centrist, like Obama and Bill Clinton before her. If she makes it to the general, she has a solid chance of winning, except that people - outside of those who are already supporters of hers - don't really like her. She is in trouble currently because she pivoted to the centre - as all nominees have to do eventually - before locking up the nomination, and is now getting thumped by a true socialist. However, Sanders' populist message will have a much broader appeal, I believe, than anyone the other side can offer because, unlike Trump, he is demonizing a demographic that consists of only a few hundred thousand people and which is easy for the other 99.9% to hate.

Disclosure: I'm feeling the Bern.

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 10 Feb 16 10.09pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

To imagine any of the candidates, on either side, becoming president is weird.

I reckon Hillary will probably win as it stands currently. Mainly because of her surname.

 


Optimistic as ever

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