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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 26 Jun 17 1.09pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You are in the minority, not me.

So how about you go onto the streets when we leave the EU and I won't care.

Because leave it we will.

We will leave. But then we will be asking politely to be let back in before you or I collect our pension because it's an ill-thought out change for the UK and we we are being led into it by an alignment of political assholes and clap-happy ultra-right wingers and their acolytes with no sense of real purpose nor direction. Just a bunch of idiotic dreamers - oooh, let's be like Switzerland or Japan OR BOTH! - with their heads firmly in the sand.

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View Hansy's Profile Hansy Flag 26 Jun 17 1.12pm Send a Private Message to Hansy Add Hansy as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

We will leave. But then we will be asking politely to be let back in before you or I collect our pension because it's an ill-thought out change for the UK and we we are being led into it by an alignment of political assholes and clap-happy ultra-right wingers and their acolytes with no sense of real purpose nor direction. Just a bunch if idiotic dreamers - oooh, let's be like Switzerland or Japan OR BOTH! - with their heads firmly in the sand.

Edited by Kermit8 (26 Jun 2017 1.10pm)

A future election will be based on that. 1 Party wanting full membership again. I can't see us putting the tail between our legs. It's an amazing opportunity to negotiate a good deal for both sides and not have to answer to the unelected presidents.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Jun 17 1.23pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

We will leave. But then we will be asking politely to be let back in before you or I collect our pension because it's an ill-thought out change for the UK and we we are being led into it by an alignment of political assholes and clap-happy ultra-right wingers and their acolytes with no sense of real purpose nor direction. Just a bunch of idiotic dreamers - oooh, let's be like Switzerland or Japan OR BOTH! - with their heads firmly in the sand.

Edited by Kermit8 (26 Jun 2017 1.15pm)

'ultra-right wingers'

Did you just have a little dream Kermy....well wakey wakey mate...smell some coffee and stick a smile on your face.

Don't forget you could always go and live in Scotland Kermit...Even though we know it's plastic Scot syndrome. That said, It's where your politics is enacted....Regardless that England have to pay for some of it.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 26 Jun 17 1.25pm

Originally posted by Hansy

A future election will be based on that. 1 Party wanting full membership again. I can't see us putting the tail between our legs. It's an amazing opportunity to negotiate a good deal for both sides and not have to answer to the unelected presidents but still cowtow to murdoch, dacre et al.

EFA

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 26 Jun 17 1.26pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

'ultra-right wingers'

Did you just have a little dream Kermy....well wakey wakey mate...smell some coffee and stick a smile on your face.

Don't forget you could always go and live in Scotland Kermit...Even though we know it's plastic Scot syndrome. That said, It's where your politics is enacted....Regardless that England have to pay for some of it.

'ultra-right wingers' - true

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 26 Jun 17 1.37pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I notice that for some 'progressives/regressives' anyone who is the right of them is some kind of extremist.

As usual...it's emotion over reason.

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 26 Jun 17 1.41pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

'ultra-right wingers'

Did you just have a little dream Kermy....well wakey wakey mate...smell some coffee and stick a smile on your face.

Don't forget you could always go and live in Scotland Kermit...Even though we know it's plastic Scot syndrome. That said, It's where your politics is enacted....Regardless that England have to pay for some of it.

At least I am not in denial of my roots and pretending and deluding myself that I am 100% English like a certain half-Irish Wisbech inhabitant, eh Stirling?

 


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Originally posted by Hansy

A future election will be based on that. 1 Party wanting full membership again. I can't see us putting the tail between our legs. It's an amazing opportunity to negotiate a good deal for both sides and not have to answer to the unelected presidents.

I'm not particularly anti-Brexit per se but how much "answering" did we ever have to do to unelected presidents?

Can anyone name me some edict from an EU unelected official which has impacted negatively on their life?

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I notice that for some 'progressives/regressives' anyone who is the right of them is some kind of extremist.

As usual...it's emotion over reason.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jun 2017 1.37pm)


Well, you are definitely not centre-right and you are also not far-right. But you have very strong, sometimes dubious, right-wing tendencies which makes you ultra-right. Like Tebbit.

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Just holding up a mirror to you, that's all.

It's time you held up a mirror to yourself.

And got a life...

 

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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

I'm not particularly anti-Brexit per se but how much "answering" did we ever have to do to unelected presidents?

Can anyone name me some edict from an EU unelected official which has impacted negatively on their life?

They promote democracy, but aren't one themselves. Can't imagine never voting for someone that is head of the executive arm in the UK

EU Council Pres Tusk externally is the Union's head of state (Union) pushing through the Council's ideology (His own country he was PM for, Poland, voted against him being declared the President). Also one of the main people involved in the Brexit negotiations.

EU Commission President Juncker proposes laws for the Parliament to vote on. The Tariffs for external nations etc. Read about the Accidental President story, it's actually a fairly decent read. His position is the most powerful in the EU, as he effectively heads up the executive arm of the union.

Both these positions should be voted on by the public in the EU, with the MEPs being similar to the local elections in the UK.

Edited by Hansy (26 Jun 2017 1.54pm)

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 26 Jun 17 2.46pm

Originally posted by Hansy

They promote democracy, but aren't one themselves. Can't imagine never voting for someone that is head of the executive arm in the UK

EU Council Pres Tusk externally is the Union's head of state (Union) pushing through the Council's ideology (His own country he was PM for, Poland, voted against him being declared the President). Also one of the main people involved in the Brexit negotiations.

EU Commission President Juncker proposes laws for the Parliament to vote on. The Tariffs for external nations etc. Read about the Accidental President story, it's actually a fairly decent read. His position is the most powerful in the EU, as he effectively heads up the executive arm of the union.

Both these positions should be voted on by the public in the EU, with the MEPs being similar to the local elections in the UK.

Edited by Hansy (26 Jun 2017 1.54pm)

They're elected by the MEPs, similar to how party leaders aren't elected. Now I think they should have to be elected to the EU Parliament, like anyone else, but they are the product of democratic process

 


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