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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 17 Oct 17 10.15am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

794 pages and still no-one who voted Leave has allayed any fears, or even come close to it, that we won't be worse off economically, environmentally and security wise going into the short, mid and long-term future with Brexit.

Yes, i know we will be able to label our own foods in 18 months and decide who fishes in our waters. That's great. But hardly the stuff a 'revolution' should see as its zenith.

And no point in mentioning Health, Education, Housing and Transport as they are sectors which we manage (fairly badly it has to be said) ourselves anyway without being beholden to EU so any fvck-ups there we only have to look to Westminster as to 'why?' and not Brussels. Plus, population numbers even with Brexit is going over 70mill by 2035. The challenge to 'manage' has been there for a long time now.

So, please, remind me - why are we leaving again? Apart from sticking two fingers up at some Europeans what is the point insofar as it being definitely beneficial to the UK?

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Online Flag Croydon 17 Oct 17 10.23am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Unfortunately K pointing out that there are no benefits in leaving the EU is correct but you won't get any replies to your posts !!!!

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 10.25am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Unfortunately K pointing out that there are no benefits in leaving the EU is correct but you won't get any replies to your posts !!!!

It's going tits up because we are not positive enough. Apparently.

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 17 Oct 17 10.37am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Latest YouGov/Times Poll

Q:In hindsight, do you think Britain was right or wrong to vote to leave the EU?

Right - 42%

Wrong - 47%

Don't Know - 11%

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We need a second referendum with bullsh1t banned for all sides.

Edited by Kermit8 (17 Oct 2017 10.39am)

 


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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 17 Oct 17 10.38am Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

794 pages and still no-one who voted Leave has allayed any fears, or even come close to it, that we won't be worse off economically, environmentally and security wise going into the short, mid and long-term future with Brexit.

Yes, i know we will be able to label our own foods in 18 months and decide who fishes in our waters. That's great. But hardly the stuff a 'revolution' should see as its zenith.

And no point in mentioning Health, Education, Housing and Transport as they are sectors which we manage (fairly badly it has to be said) ourselves anyway without being beholden to EU so any fvck-ups there we only have to look to Westminster as to 'why?' and not Brussels. Plus, population numbers even with Brexit is going over 70mill by 2035. The challenge to 'manage' has been there for a long time now.

So, please, remind me - why are we leaving again? Apart from sticking two fingers up at some Europeans what is the point insofar as it being definitely beneficial to the UK?

Sorry. If you want to re-argue the EU referendum, go from page 794 to page 1.

I hope you're a slow reader.

 

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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 17 Oct 17 10.43am Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Latest YouGov/Times Poll

Q:In hindsight, do you think Britain was right or wrong to vote to leave the EU?

Yes - 42%

No - 47%

Don't Know - 11%

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We need a second referendum with bullsh1t banned for all sides.

Neverendums. Right out of the EU playbook.

Why don't you campaign to re-join, rather than agitating for the subversion of a democratic mandate that you don't like, on the basis of polls that change with the wind?

If the case is as clear-cut as you claim, then it'll be a doddle.

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 17 Oct 17 10.49am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Neverendums. Right out of the EU playbook.

Why don't you campaign to re-join, rather than agitating for the subversion of a democratic mandate that you don't like, on the basis of polls that change with the wind?

If the case is as clear-cut as you claim, then it'll be a doddle.

We will be re-joining. Just a question of in ten years or maybe fifteen? Your core support will have died by then.

To paraphrase Attlee - Referendum are not about democracy but about demagogues.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 17 Oct 17 10.51am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Latest YouGov/Times Poll

Q:In hindsight, do you think Britain was right or wrong to vote to leave the EU?

Right - 42%

Wrong - 47%

Don't Know - 11%

[Link]

We need a second referendum with bullsh1t banned for all sides.

Edited by Kermit8 (17 Oct 2017 10.39am)

Would shut you up for a few weeks.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 17 Oct 17 10.52am

Originally posted by Kermit8

We will be re-joining. Just a question of in ten years or maybe fifteen? Your core support will have died by then.

To paraphrase Attlee - Referendum are not about democracy but about demagogues.

The rest of the EU countries may well have left by then.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 17 Oct 17 10.53am

Originally posted by Kermit8

794 pages and still no-one who voted Leave has allayed any fears, or even come close to it, that we won't be worse off economically, environmentally and security wise going into the short, mid and long-term future with Brexit.

Yes, i know we will be able to label our own foods in 18 months and decide who fishes in our waters. That's great. But hardly the stuff a 'revolution' should see as its zenith.

And no point in mentioning Health, Education, Housing and Transport as they are sectors which we manage (fairly badly it has to be said) ourselves anyway without being beholden to EU so any fvck-ups there we only have to look to Westminster as to 'why?' and not Brussels. Plus, population numbers even with Brexit is going over 70mill by 2035. The challenge to 'manage' has been there for a long time now.

So, please, remind me - why are we leaving again? Apart from sticking two fingers up at some Europeans what is the point insofar as it being definitely beneficial to the UK?

So we can run our own country.

 


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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 17 Oct 17 10.56am Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle



You went from "not bragging about it" one minute to be "totally bragadocious" the next.

Personal achievement and universal rights and freedoms are very different things and shouldn't be conflated. Indeed doing so and claiming that we live in a "meritocracy" is very much the problem at the heart of the Tory falsehoods on Brexit and society in general. Grace and favour is much more their bag.

Aww. The green-eyed monster. Cute.

FYI - the vast majority of countries in that big bad world out there doesn't recognise upping sticks to another country and insisting on the perks those citizens have as a "universal right". I happen to agree with them.

Sorry to disappoint you.

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 17 Oct 17 10.57am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by hedgehog50

So we can run our own country.

ah, yes..into the ground....if The Tories remain in power

 


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