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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 08 Oct 18 3.17pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Why do you want another referendum when you're ignoring the result of the last one?

Like I said.

They can vote on what leaving actually is, not as politicians said 2 years ago.

How ridiculous it looks now, go back to it the campaign is painful, but if you vote again democrats no objection from me.

The last referendum was advisory only as you know.

Referendums bah humbug .........

Pick up the phone and scrap the whole thing.....



 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

Like I said.

They can vote on what leaving actually is, not as politicians said 2 years ago.

How ridiculous it looks now, go back to it the campaign is painful, but if you vote again democrats no objection from me.

The last referendum was advisory only as you know.

Referendums bah humbug .........

Pick up the phone and scrap the whole thing.....



Like I said.
There will be no more truth around now than there was then. The results of leaving will not be known for years.
The simple fact is that you want to keep voting until you get the result you want. You aren't fooling anyone.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Like I said.
There will be no more truth around now than there was then. The results of leaving will not be known for years.
The simple fact is that you want to keep voting until you get the result you want. You aren't fooling anyone.

No it would be final the 2nd vote, must be a binding vote though.

 

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.TUX. Flag 08 Oct 18 4.13pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Like I said.
There will be no more truth around now than there was then. The results of leaving will not be known for years.
The simple fact is that you want to keep voting until you get the result you want. You aren't fooling anyone.

In...a...nutshell.

 


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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 08 Oct 18 4.18pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20



No it would be final the 2nd vote
, must be a binding vote though.

Unless it didn't go your way (again) of course.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 08 Oct 18 4.18pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

In...a...nutshell.

If the 'results of leaving will not be known for years' why then did you vote to leave ?

Must be a brexiteer. (!).

 

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View CambridgeEagle's Profile CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 08 Oct 18 4.20pm Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

I think your missing my point.
Why do we want to increase the population?

Why do we want busier roads, more pollution
Straigned services when we could keep the population low. Lower population lowers housing giving people more in their pockets.

And yes if we increase the population we will need nurses so stop increasing the population.

I bet all these liberals who love open borders are the first to moan about building on the green belt or pollution from more cars in cities.

And don't forget automatization is around the corner!!

So all in all these youngsters voting to remain have not got a clue.

You stated that the catalyst for unaffordable homes was EU immigration. So unless your point was something other than what you stated I didn't miss it.

I pointed out the holes in your analysis.

I think you'll find it's conservatives rather than liberals who are the first to moan about building on the green belt. You could build millions of homes on half the UK's golf courses and I wouldn't mind and you'd lose practically no public space in doing so.

Automation will be a good thing as long as its benefits aren't seized by the wealthy and not shared with workers. However certain jobs like caring for the sick and elderly, mental health professionals, teachers etc. can't be automated. Automation should allow us to spend more time with our families rather than make swathes of people redundant.

Immigration has been proven again and again to be broadly positive. To use it as an excuse for government failings is callous, cowardly, bigoted and ignorant.

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

No it would be final the 2nd vote, must be a binding vote though.

The 2nd vote was in 2016.

 

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View CambridgeEagle's Profile CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 08 Oct 18 4.25pm Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Like I said.
There will be no more truth around now than there was then. The results of leaving will not be known for years.
The simple fact is that you want to keep voting until you get the result you want. You aren't fooling anyone.

Now people know there are only 3 concrete options and there is far more clarity on the implications for the border in NI. Also we know we're all about £900 poorer than we would have been without the vote and we know the government is incapable of negotiating.

But importantly we know the 3 options:

Remain.

Leave with a Canada style deal (with added security cooperation) or WTO terms with a border in the Irish Sea.

Leave but stay in the CU/SM (so called Norway option). This would avoid any border between Ireland and GB/UK.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 08 Oct 18 4.31pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Unless it didn't go your way (again) of course.

Well that's referendums for you isn't it.

They can be called anytime for any reason, some countries about every six weeks, a curse on referendums.....

 

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.TUX. Flag 08 Oct 18 5.23pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

If the 'results of leaving will not be known for years' why then did you vote to leave ?

Must be a brexiteer. (!).

Big government is bad news. We already have one of those here screwing our lives so why on earth would i want to extend it further?
The bloc is little more than a box-ticking, debt-driven experiment............and it's failing.

 


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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 08 Oct 18 5.48pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

You stated that the catalyst for unaffordable homes was EU immigration. So unless your point was something other than what you stated I didn't miss it.

I pointed out the holes in your analysis.

I think you'll find it's conservatives rather than liberals who are the first to moan about building on the green belt. You could build millions of homes on half the UK's golf courses and I wouldn't mind and you'd lose practically no public space in doing so.

Automation will be a good thing as long as its benefits aren't seized by the wealthy and not shared with workers. However certain jobs like caring for the sick and elderly, mental health professionals, teachers etc. can't be automated. Automation should allow us to spend more time with our families rather than make swathes of people redundant.

Immigration has been proven again and again to be broadly positive. To use it as an excuse for government failings is callous, cowardly, bigoted and ignorant.

Broadly positive for who?
Less police
Straigned services
Expensive houses
Wage depression
Building on green belt.

Just because you might want a cheap polish builder or a European to pour your coffee I'm struggling to see the broad Benifit to the people.

Corporations who are attached to government love it because it's a money making machine, well bully for them as we the people see no Benifit.
My area coulsdon has changed completely with 800 houses at cane hill and development plots everywhere.

Don't be so naive!!

 

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