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Stirlingsays Online 16 Dec 18 12.37pm
Originally posted by steve1984 Surely once they've had enough babies they will no longer be a minority and conversely they will argue about you throwing your "minority" weight around? Like for example the situation in Northern Island, where Britain artificially created a majority which is becoming a minority because the number of Republicans is growing? Or Israel where the growth in the number of Arab Israelis is outstripping Jewish Israelis who will themselves become a minority in due course. Nope....The Jews are long long onto that, there will always be a Jewish majority in Israel and significantly so. They have land control laws, Jews can only control land in set areas and they are strict on citizenship. The Jews aren't nearly as stupid as Europeans....or should I say their leaders. Unless the Arabs take that land back by force, it will still be Jewish in a 100 years time. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Dec 2018 12.38pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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16 Dec 18 12.37pm

Originally posted by steve1984

Surely once they've had enough babies they will no longer be a minority and conversely they will argue about you throwing your "minority" weight around?

Like for example the situation in Northern Island, where Britain artificially created a majority which is becoming a minority because the number of Republicans is growing?

Or Israel where the growth in the number of Arab Israelis is outstripping Jewish Israelis who will themselves become a minority in due course.

Nope....The Jews are long long onto that, there will always be a Jewish majority in Israel and significantly so. They have land control laws, Jews can only control land in set areas and they are strict on citizenship.

The Jews aren't nearly as stupid as Europeans....or should I say their leaders.

Unless the Arabs take that land back by force, it will still be Jewish in a 100 years time.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Dec 2018 12.38pm)

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Tawny Croydon 16 Dec 18 12.38pm
Originally posted by steve1984 Surely once they've had enough babies they will no longer be a minority and conversely they will argue about you throwing your "minority" weight around? Good point. Many of the same people who appear to view minorities as uppity, ungrateful types with opportunities thrown at them from every direction are themselves terrified of the idea of becoming a minority within "their own country". There is an internal acknowledgement that their own ideas about the lives of minorities are false, even if there isn't an external one.
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Croydon 16 Dec 18 12.38pm

Originally posted by steve1984

Surely once they've had enough babies they will no longer be a minority and conversely they will argue about you throwing your "minority" weight around?

Good point. Many of the same people who appear to view minorities as uppity, ungrateful types with opportunities thrown at them from every direction are themselves terrified of the idea of becoming a minority within "their own country". There is an internal acknowledgement that their own ideas about the lives of minorities are false, even if there isn't an external one.

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since1953 Maidenhead 16 Dec 18 12.39pm
The more I think about it,I believe that there shout be another referendum with the following binary choice: 1. Remain with the acknowledgement of the EU's inexorable progress towards federalism. 2. Leave without a deal,but with the intention to negotiate trade terms with the EU post Brexit.
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Maidenhead 16 Dec 18 12.39pm

The more I think about it,I believe that there shout be another referendum with the following binary choice:

1. Remain with the acknowledgement of the EU's inexorable progress towards federalism.
2. Leave without a deal,but with the intention to negotiate trade terms with the EU post Brexit.

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Stirlingsays Online 16 Dec 18 12.42pm
The English have a right to rule in England. The idea that the English will no longer be the majority in England means that this country is no longer England. That's what's important.....it's absurd to hear this nonsense about being concerned about being a minority.....Shouldn't I be concerned....Wouldn't this be the case for a German in Germany....It's fecking Germany! It's about being English controlling fecking England. I'm sure that if this was about Africans being in control in Africa these same embarrassments would be all over it. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Dec 2018 12.45pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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16 Dec 18 12.42pm

The English have a right to rule in England. The idea that the English will no longer be the majority in England means that this country is no longer England.

That's what's important.....it's absurd to hear this nonsense about being concerned about being a minority.....Shouldn't I be concerned....Wouldn't this be the case for a German in Germany....It's fecking Germany!

It's about being English controlling fecking England.

I'm sure that if this was about Africans being in control in Africa these same embarrassments would be all over it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Dec 2018 12.45pm)

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DanH SW2 16 Dec 18 12.45pm
Lol that you’ve gone for England rather than the UK (which is the entity leaving the EU) and then just lumped Africa together as one homogenous lump.
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Lol that you’ve gone for England rather than the UK (which is the entity leaving the EU) and then just lumped Africa together as one homogenous lump.

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Stirlingsays Online 16 Dec 18 12.46pm
Originally posted by DanH Lol that you’ve gone for England rather than the UK (which is the entity leaving the EU) and then just lumped Africa together as one homogenous lump. Would the point have been easier for you to grasp then, if I had carefully delineated it out for you? The concept is the same. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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16 Dec 18 12.46pm

Originally posted by DanH

Lol that you’ve gone for England rather than the UK (which is the entity leaving the EU) and then just lumped Africa together as one homogenous lump.

Would the point have been easier for you to grasp then, if I had carefully delineated it out for you?

The concept is the same.

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Hrolf The Ganger 16 Dec 18 12.48pm
Originally posted by steve1984 OK let me try again then. At some unspecified time in it's recent past England was good as it was. Are you saying then that we should try and recreate that period of time? No I'm saying that those who protested the first time round were right and that the liberal/Left still try to pretend otherwise for political reasons with their minority friends cheering them on. What is worse is that we now realise that any social aspects are not very important to our overlords who continue to make the same mistakes that we all have to pay for as they get wealthier. What I want is a halt to mass immigration and not see it continue on into the future until Britain is no longer Britain as we know it, but some multicultural third world country with shanty towns, insufficient resources, loony religions and criminality.
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Originally posted by steve1984

OK let me try again then. At some unspecified time in it's recent past England was good as it was.

Are you saying then that we should try and recreate that period of time?

No I'm saying that those who protested the first time round were right and that the liberal/Left still try to pretend otherwise for political reasons with their minority friends cheering them on.
What is worse is that we now realise that any social aspects are not very important to our overlords who continue to make the same mistakes that we all have to pay for as they get wealthier.
What I want is a halt to mass immigration and not see it continue on into the future until Britain is no longer Britain as we know it, but some multicultural third world country with shanty towns, insufficient resources, loony religions and criminality.

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steve1984 16 Dec 18 12.49pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Nope....The Jews are long long onto that, there will always be a Jewish majority in Israel Again I think there has been a misunderstanding. I'm talking about the fact that 21% of Israeli citizens are Arab. They have larger families than their Jewish Israeli neighbours and so the 21% is growing. Not sure that has anything to so with land.
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steve1984 16 Dec 18 12.49pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Nope....The Jews are long long onto that, there will always be a Jewish majority in Israel

Again I think there has been a misunderstanding. I'm talking about the fact that 21% of Israeli citizens are Arab. They have larger families than their Jewish Israeli neighbours and so the 21% is growing.

Not sure that has anything to so with land.

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Pussay Patrol 16 Dec 18 12.51pm
Originally posted by DanH Lol that you’ve gone for England rather than the UK (which is the entity leaving the EU) and then just lumped Africa together as one homogenous lump. Insular Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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16 Dec 18 12.51pm

Originally posted by DanH

Lol that you’ve gone for England rather than the UK (which is the entity leaving the EU) and then just lumped Africa together as one homogenous lump.

Insular

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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steve1984 16 Dec 18 12.56pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Shouldn't I be concerned....Wouldn't this be the case for a German in Germany....It's fecking Germany! But what about a German who isn't in Germany? Before WWII there was a vast German diaspora stretching from Belgium, Alsace and Lorraine in the west, through Switzerland, Austria modern day Poland, Hungary, Czech and Slovakia, the Baltic states (Prussia), Romania and as far east as the river Volga 2,500 kilometers away in Russia. I can't find the numbers but we're talking millions of people. What about them, their culture and their identity? Edited by steve1984 (16 Dec 2018 1.00pm)
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steve1984 16 Dec 18 12.56pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Shouldn't I be concerned....Wouldn't this be the case for a German in Germany....It's fecking Germany!

But what about a German who isn't in Germany?

Before WWII there was a vast German diaspora stretching from Belgium, Alsace and Lorraine in the west, through Switzerland, Austria modern day Poland, Hungary, Czech and Slovakia, the Baltic states (Prussia), Romania and as far east as the river Volga 2,500 kilometers away in Russia.

I can't find the numbers but we're talking millions of people. What about them, their culture and their identity?

Edited by steve1984 (16 Dec 2018 1.00pm)

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Stirlingsays Online 16 Dec 18 12.56pm
Originally posted by steve1984 Again I think there has been a misunderstanding. I'm talking about the fact that 21% of Israeli citizens are Arab. They have larger families than their Jewish Israeli neighbours and so the 21% is growing. Not sure that has anything to so with land. Really?....controlling the land decides who can be on it. The Jews can throw out who they like when they like. I've already stated how the Jews are onto this. Recent law changes have been just one plank in ensuring that they aren't in danger on their 'own land'. The Jews won't be turned into a minority in Israel....that's what you point was and that's your misunderstanding not mine. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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16 Dec 18 12.56pm

Originally posted by steve1984

Not sure that has anything to so with land.

Really?....controlling the land decides who can be on it. The Jews can throw out who they like when they like.

I've already stated how the Jews are onto this. Recent law changes have been just one plank in ensuring that they aren't in danger on their 'own land'.

The Jews won't be turned into a minority in Israel....that's what you point was and that's your misunderstanding not mine.

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Tawny Croydon 16 Dec 18 12.57pm
Originally posted by DanH Lol that you’ve gone for England rather than the UK (which is the entity leaving the EU) and then just lumped Africa together as one homogenous lump. Ironically Africans have vastly more genetic differences between groups than any other race, so yes the lump em in attitude then having a very narrow idea of what English means is telling.
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Croydon 16 Dec 18 12.57pm

Originally posted by DanH

Lol that you’ve gone for England rather than the UK (which is the entity leaving the EU) and then just lumped Africa together as one homogenous lump.

Ironically Africans have vastly more genetic differences between groups than any other race, so yes the lump em in attitude then having a very narrow idea of what English means is telling.

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