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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 17 Jan 19 11.34am

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

It's looking increasingly evident that there will have to be changes in leadership in both the Tory and Labour parties for this absurd deadlock to be broken. May's 'deal' is unacceptable while Corbyn's intransigence is just inexplicable.

May said she would before the next election so we have to hope for a Tory win.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 17 Jan 19 11.34am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin

That's not a Brexit based issue.

Although, much of their own power is generated by nuclear, Japanese firms have a bad record in building power plants. In this case the private company has to pay for the clean up; which makes nuclear too expensive for the private sector.


All not a renewable with limited access to fuel; I'm afraid we need this and the other power station that construction ceased on, at least in the medium term.

It is a brexit issue as it reveals the post-brexit investment reality.

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 17 Jan 19 11.38am

Originally posted by steeleye20

It is a brexit issue as it reveals the post-brexit investment reality.

Not really, as it is an investment decision extra-EU. I am not aware of any reliance on the EU in building the station.

The demand for the power will not diminish as other generating methods go off line faster than the shrinkage that will happen in the economy. Indeed we could have sold the energy to the EU at an inflated rate post Brexit.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 17 Jan 19 11.48am

Originally posted by pefwin

That's not a Brexit based issue.

Although, much of their own power is generated by nuclear, Japanese firms have a bad record in building power plants. In this case the private company has to pay for the clean up; which makes nuclear too expensive for the private sector.


Although, not a renewable with limited access to fuel; I'm afraid we need this and the other power station that construction ceased on, at least in the medium term.


Edited by pefwin (17 Jan 2019 11.35am)

The decision coming a day after a massive government defeat and the chaos that has ensued is no coincidence to me

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 17 Jan 19 11.51am

Originally posted by pefwin

Not really, as it is an investment decision extra-EU. I am not aware of any reliance on the EU in building the station.

The demand for the power will not diminish as other generating methods go off line faster than the shrinkage that will happen in the economy. Indeed we could have sold the energy to the EU at an inflated rate post Brexit.

I thought this brave new world of opportunity post brexit, free from the shackles of the EU would have enticed our Japanese friends.

They would rather kiss goodbye to 2bn than do trade here

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 17 Jan 19 11.51am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

It's looking increasingly evident that there will have to be changes in leadership in both the Tory and Labour parties for this absurd deadlock to be broken. May's 'deal' is unacceptable while Corbyn's intransigence is just inexplicable.

It's also surreal given she is Remain and he is as ardently Brexit as Farage.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 17 Jan 19 11.56am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

It's also surreal given she is Remain and he is as ardently Brexit as Farage.

Should’ve had Andrea Leadsome in charge, at least in charge of Brexit. She’s a brexiteer with experience in business most of them don’t have, andxst the top of the financial sector. The speech outside number 10 at the start of May’s tenure doesn’t resemble anything we’ve seen, in leadership before policy.

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 17 Jan 19 12.40pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

I thought this brave new world of opportunity post brexit, free from the shackles of the EU would have enticed our Japanese friends.

why?

Far better opportunities with less regulation closer to home than the UK. Brexit does not suddenly make us a wonderland of opportunity.


1 billion could be the de-commissioning costs for one station.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 17 Jan 19 12.52pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Well it is about time you did as he is a senior European leader, you know them, over there, not the Conservative Party?


And what a fine job he is doing isn't he!

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 17 Jan 19 12.55pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

The decision coming a day after a massive government defeat and the chaos that has ensued is no coincidence to me

Well it wouldn't be would it, with your anti-brexit glasses on

 

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View davenotamonkey's Profile davenotamonkey Flag 17 Jan 19 1.13pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Hitachi have pulled out of a nuclear plant project on wales, 300 jobs to go and would meant potentially 9000 jobs in the future

This will impact on UK energy prices in the future.

The government were negotiating this project and no doubt the same idiots who will negotiate trade deals

Although brexit isn't mentioned, the timing of the decision does lead you to think it is a factor

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Would you like to know what impact the EU Large Combustion Plant Directive (LCPD) had on UK energy generation?

I doubt it, but I will tell you. Firstly: a directive is a law from Brussels that MUST be implemented into the statute books here. Parliament CANNOT say no. They must pass legislation that conforms. So, if it's piece of s*** legislation, then it's a question of "no, we don't want to get shafted from behind", it's a question of "can you use some lube?"

Right.

At the time, the UK grid had about 80GW power generation, and a demand of 63GW - so 79% usage.

The LCPD forced closure of (at least) 9 coal-fired plants. I calculated a total of 12GW from those. It also closed (at least) 3 oil plants, losing 3.5GW. That's a total of 15.5GW production LOST.

That takes us to 64.5GW of power generation, or 97% capacity, based (naively) on the demand not increasing with population and rampant immigration.

My figures are much lower than those stated here:

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How do we make up this shortfall? Ah yes, expensive, inefficient wind turbines. Typical yield is 3MW/sq km. So, if we wanted to plug the shortfall with turbines:

15,500MW / 3 = 5167 sq. kms

That is well over 3x the area of London.

So we need to either mass-import energy (oh - EDF is owned by the French government you say, really? How convenient), fill the country with wind turbines, or ask very nicely if the EU will allow us to build nuclear power stations:

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The EU is a f***ing disaster for our country. It is a disaster for industry (requiring cheap power), it is a disaster for sufficiency, it is a disaster for democracy.

I'll take no lectures from EU supporters on energy prices, nor "Brexit-did-itisms" where there is no evidence the decision was influenced by us daring to leave the mafia club.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 17 Jan 19 1.22pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

The decision coming a day after a massive government defeat and the chaos that has ensued is no coincidence to me

It just goes to show what little grasp of business or even reality you have if you honestly think that a decision to write off sums of money of this magnitude is taken overnight

 

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