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dynamicdick Dormansland 29 Jan 19 10.16pm
I am utterley disgusted with the decision by MP’s to remove the threat of a No Deal and with it our only bargaining chip, what a bunch of complete t*s! Surprise surprise the EU have said that they won’t change the withdrawal agreement and why should they?? This now portrays the unelected EU in all their glory..... a bunch of protectionists interested only in their 27 state club. Parliament must live in cloud cuckoo land if they think they will get a deal that will satisfy anywhere near Brexit. A complete betrayal for the 17.5million. Never supported anarchy before but will now. Of course then there is the question of the £39bn!! Also Mrs May don’t whatever you do speak to Corbyn unless it’s to fk off! Bring back Brolin
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Dormansland 29 Jan 19 10.16pm

I am utterley disgusted with the decision by MP’s to remove the threat of a No Deal and with it our only bargaining chip, what a bunch of complete t***s! Surprise surprise the EU have said that they won’t change the withdrawal agreement and why should they??
This now portrays the unelected EU in all their glory..... a bunch of protectionists interested only in their 27 state club.
Parliament must live in cloud cuckoo land if they think they will get a deal that will satisfy anywhere near Brexit. A complete betrayal for the 17.5million. Never supported anarchy before but will now.
Of course then there is the question of the £39bn!!
Also Mrs May don’t whatever you do speak to Corbyn unless it’s to f**k off!

Bring back Brolin

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Pussay Patrol 29 Jan 19 10.33pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Oh and the EU are now saying if there is no deal they will use technology away from the border to manage it which is exactly what JRM and his mates have been saying all along. Edited by Badger11 (29 Jan 2019 9.08pm) Maybe he done his research while moving his hedge funds over there? Telling us how great Brexit will be while re-positioning his money within the EU. Populism works, just tell the mob whatever they want to hear Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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29 Jan 19 10.33pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Oh and the EU are now saying if there is no deal they will use technology away from the border to manage it which is exactly what JRM and his mates have been saying all along.

Edited by Badger11 (29 Jan 2019 9.08pm)

Maybe he done his research while moving his hedge funds over there? Telling us how great Brexit will be while re-positioning his money within the EU. Populism works, just tell the mob whatever they want to hear

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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Pussay Patrol 29 Jan 19 10.37pm
Originally posted by dynamicdick I am utterley disgusted with the decision by MP’s to remove the threat of a No Deal and with it our only bargaining chip, what a bunch of complete t*s! Surprise surprise the EU have said that they won’t change the withdrawal agreement and why should they?? This now portrays the unelected EU in all their glory..... a bunch of protectionists interested only in their 27 state club. Parliament must live in cloud cuckoo land if they think they will get a deal that will satisfy anywhere near Brexit. A complete betrayal for the 17.5million. Never supported anarchy before but will now. Of course then there is the question of the £39bn!! Also Mrs May don’t whatever you do speak to Corbyn unless it’s to fk off! why are people so bothered about the 39bn? It's not as if we'll see a penny of that, you could argue they could reduce hospital waiting lists, hire more teachers, police or improve local services, but the Tories won't do that, everything will continue to be run down to a skeleton and say there's no magic money tree Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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29 Jan 19 10.37pm

Originally posted by dynamicdick

why are people so bothered about the 39bn?

It's not as if we'll see a penny of that, you could argue they could reduce hospital waiting lists, hire more teachers, police or improve local services, but the Tories won't do that, everything will continue to be run down to a skeleton and say there's no magic money tree

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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W12 29 Jan 19 11.08pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Anarchy in the UK. ....use to be the left....but in the future it'll probably be from the right....the new counter culture. Anyone know any Generals?
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W12 29 Jan 19 11.08pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Anarchy in the UK.

....use to be the left....but in the future it'll probably be from the right....the new counter culture.

Anyone know any Generals?

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Stirlingsays 29 Jan 19 11.40pm
Originally posted by W12 Anyone know any Generals? The one institution the left will never be able to turn.....not the grass roots anyway. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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29 Jan 19 11.40pm

Originally posted by W12

Anyone know any Generals?

The one institution the left will never be able to turn.....not the grass roots anyway.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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deleted user 30 Jan 19 12.58am
Originally posted by dynamicdick I am utterley disgusted with the decision by MP’s to remove the threat of a No Deal and with it our only bargaining chip, what a bunch of complete t*s! Surprise surprise the EU have said that they won’t change the withdrawal agreement and why should they?? This now portrays the unelected EU in all their glory..... a bunch of protectionists interested only in their 27 state club. Parliament must live in cloud cuckoo land if they think they will get a deal that will satisfy anywhere near Brexit. A complete betrayal for the 17.5million. Never supported anarchy before but will now. Of course then there is the question of the £39bn!! Also Mrs May don’t whatever you do speak to Corbyn unless it’s to fk off! It's an advisory vote so doesn't legally change anything one way or the other.
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30 Jan 19 12.58am

Originally posted by dynamicdick

I am utterley disgusted with the decision by MP’s to remove the threat of a No Deal and with it our only bargaining chip, what a bunch of complete t***s! Surprise surprise the EU have said that they won’t change the withdrawal agreement and why should they??
This now portrays the unelected EU in all their glory..... a bunch of protectionists interested only in their 27 state club.
Parliament must live in cloud cuckoo land if they think they will get a deal that will satisfy anywhere near Brexit. A complete betrayal for the 17.5million. Never supported anarchy before but will now.
Of course then there is the question of the £39bn!!
Also Mrs May don’t whatever you do speak to Corbyn unless it’s to f**k off!

It's an advisory vote so doesn't legally change anything one way or the other.

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dannyboy1978 30 Jan 19 7.31am
Originally posted by dollardays It's an advisory vote so doesn't legally change anything one way or the other. And your thought on the democratic vote to trigger artical 50?
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30 Jan 19 7.31am

Originally posted by dollardays

It's an advisory vote so doesn't legally change anything one way or the other.

And your thought on the democratic vote to trigger artical 50?

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ChrisGC Wantage 30 Jan 19 8.24am
Originally posted by dynamicdick I am utterley disgusted with the decision by MP’s to remove the threat of a No Deal and with it our only bargaining chip, what a bunch of complete t*s! Surprise surprise the EU have said that they won’t change the withdrawal agreement and why should they?? This now portrays the unelected EU in all their glory..... a bunch of protectionists interested only in their 27 state club. Parliament must live in cloud cuckoo land if they think they will get a deal that will satisfy anywhere near Brexit. A complete betrayal for the 17.5million. Never supported anarchy before but will now. Of course then there is the question of the £39bn!! Also Mrs May don’t whatever you do speak to Corbyn unless it’s to fk off! Well said. Operation remain + a 40billion embarrassment bung nears completion by the political elite, cheered on by the traitorous fifth column.
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Wantage 30 Jan 19 8.24am

Originally posted by dynamicdick

Well said.

Operation remain + a 40billion embarrassment bung nears completion by the political elite, cheered on by the traitorous fifth column.

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chris123 hove actually 30 Jan 19 8.37am
Originally posted by dynamicdick I am utterley disgusted with the decision by MP’s to remove the threat of a No Deal and with it our only bargaining chip, what a bunch of complete t*s! Surprise surprise the EU have said that they won’t change the withdrawal agreement and why should they?? This now portrays the unelected EU in all their glory..... a bunch of protectionists interested only in their 27 state club. Parliament must live in cloud cuckoo land if they think they will get a deal that will satisfy anywhere near Brexit. A complete betrayal for the 17.5million. Never supported anarchy before but will now. Of course then there is the question of the £39bn!! Also Mrs May don’t whatever you do speak to Corbyn unless it’s to fk off! We leave at the end of March, that's the law. If there isn't an agreement, it'll be no deal, irrespective of yesterdays amendment. The only way to change that is through new legislation.
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hove actually 30 Jan 19 8.37am

Originally posted by dynamicdick

We leave at the end of March, that's the law. If there isn't an agreement, it'll be no deal, irrespective of yesterdays amendment. The only way to change that is through new legislation.

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Badger11 Beckenham 30 Jan 19 8.44am
My further thoughts on last night is nothing has actually changed. Parliament has shown there is no appetite for: - Extending the Brexit deadline - No Deal Brexit - 2nd Referendum Parliament would consider a deal with changes to the Irish back stop. All of the above were advisory votes and do not bind the government. If Mrs May comes back with an improved offer Parliament could still reject it. If the EU wont budge Parliament could still pass laws: - Extend the deadline We can still leave with no deal Parliament has to stop this with an act of Parliament. Some Tory MPs who voted for the no deal motion did so because they didn't want to threaten the EU. If the EU reject Mrs May's proposal they may change their mind. Likewise other MPs may get cold feet and decide extending the deadline is the only option. So once again everything to play for and the only thing that is clear is if Mrs May can get the concession on the back stop she has a good chance of getting it through Parliament. Over to the EU. Edited by Badger11 (30 Jan 2019 8.46am) One more point
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Beckenham 30 Jan 19 8.44am

My further thoughts on last night is nothing has actually changed.

Parliament has shown there is no appetite for:
- Extending the Brexit deadline
- No Deal Brexit
- 2nd Referendum

Parliament would consider a deal with changes to the Irish back stop.

All of the above were advisory votes and do not bind the government. If Mrs May comes back with an improved offer Parliament could still reject it.

If the EU wont budge Parliament could still pass laws:
- Extend the deadline
We can still leave with no deal Parliament has to stop this with an act of Parliament.

Some Tory MPs who voted for the no deal motion did so because they didn't want to threaten the EU. If the EU reject Mrs May's proposal they may change their mind. Likewise other MPs may get cold feet and decide extending the deadline is the only option.

So once again everything to play for and the only thing that is clear is if Mrs May can get the concession on the back stop she has a good chance of getting it through Parliament.

Over to the EU.

Edited by Badger11 (30 Jan 2019 8.46am)

One more point

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silvertop Portishead 30 Jan 19 9.24am
Originally posted by W12 Fear of being removed from the motherley teat of our EU overlords Hmm, I do see your pointe. Many remainers (i.e. me) do see the possible benefit of going alone. But now? In a fractious world where the whole order is going to pot, is it really a good time to be leaving the safety of numbers and going it alone? Truthfully, I hope I am wrong. I hope we enter a brave new world of open market, more choice at lower cost and the economy booms as the world rushes to invest in UK PLC rather than exploit our drastically weakened bargaining position. That said, I have no idea what is going to happen; and you sure as hell don't know either. Neither do the politicians who have led the charge. To be doing what we are now doing in these uncertain times... let's just say there is a very thin line between bravely stepping into the unknown and reckless stupidity. BTW, "motherly" "overlords"??? Are you gender confused or just not that that good at quoting the Daily Express?
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Portishead 30 Jan 19 9.24am

Originally posted by W12

Fear of being removed from the motherley teat of our EU overlords

Hmm, I do see your pointe. Many remainers (i.e. me) do see the possible benefit of going alone. But now? In a fractious world where the whole order is going to pot, is it really a good time to be leaving the safety of numbers and going it alone?

Truthfully, I hope I am wrong. I hope we enter a brave new world of open market, more choice at lower cost and the economy booms as the world rushes to invest in UK PLC rather than exploit our drastically weakened bargaining position.

That said, I have no idea what is going to happen; and you sure as hell don't know either. Neither do the politicians who have led the charge. To be doing what we are now doing in these uncertain times... let's just say there is a very thin line between bravely stepping into the unknown and reckless stupidity.

BTW, "motherly" "overlords"??? Are you gender confused or just not that that good at quoting the Daily Express?

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silvertop Portishead 30 Jan 19 9.28am
Originally posted by dynamicdick I am utterley disgusted with the decision by MP’s to remove the threat of a No Deal and with it our only bargaining chip, what a bunch of complete t*s! Surprise surprise the EU have said that they won’t change the withdrawal agreement and why should they?? This now portrays the unelected EU in all their glory..... a bunch of protectionists interested only in their 27 state club. Parliament must live in cloud cuckoo land if they think they will get a deal that will satisfy anywhere near Brexit. A complete betrayal for the 17.5million. Never supported anarchy before but will now. Of course then there is the question of the £39bn!! Also Mrs May don’t whatever you do speak to Corbyn unless it’s to fk off! What did you think a trading bloc was?
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Portishead 30 Jan 19 9.28am

Originally posted by dynamicdick

I am utterley disgusted with the decision by MP’s to remove the threat of a No Deal and with it our only bargaining chip, what a bunch of complete t***s! Surprise surprise the EU have said that they won’t change the withdrawal agreement and why should they??
This now portrays the unelected EU in all their glory..... a bunch of protectionists interested only in their 27 state club.
Parliament must live in cloud cuckoo land if they think they will get a deal that will satisfy anywhere near Brexit. A complete betrayal for the 17.5million. Never supported anarchy before but will now.
Of course then there is the question of the £39bn!!
Also Mrs May don’t whatever you do speak to Corbyn unless it’s to f**k off!

What did you think a trading bloc was?

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