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 Matov  20 Mar 19 10.54pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Our food is better quality than anywhere else in the world. I for one do not want to see a race to the bottom.
Is it? Be interested to see how you back up that claim.
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| Mapletree Croydon 20 Mar 19 11.03pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Is it? Be interested to see how you back up that claim. I have a huge volume of research e.g. from Harper Adams and meat industry professional bodies Presumably it is of no concern to you that the USA has 1.2m cases of salmonella poisoning a year And death by spinach passed you by. Regulation is immensely important. Not to mention food security.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 20 Mar 19 11.05pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Our food is better quality than anywhere else in the world. I for one do not want to see a race to the bottom. Presumably you feel the same way about fireworks and building materials. Why do we need regulation, the market will manage it Simple naivety. Yes because of British Safety standards & not EU Directives.
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| .TUX. 20 Mar 19 11.17pm |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Our food is better quality than anywhere else in the world. I for one do not want to see a race to the bottom. Presumably you feel the same way about fireworks and building materials. Why do we need regulation, the market will manage it Simple naivety. Free-markets have served humanity well for millennia. Let 'the market' decide.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 20 Mar 19 11.33pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Free-markets have served humanity well for millennia. Let 'the market' decide. Ah bud bud bud. That statement is complete bollocks. For one, deregulation of the financial markets in the early 70s caused exactly the thing you now perpetually wail about all the time, irrespective of thread. Edited by SW19 CPFC (20 Mar 2019 11.33pm)
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 20 Mar 19 11.38pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Yes because of British Safety standards & not EU Directives. Actually a combination of the two. More bollocks. Maybe all that hormonal beef and chlorinated chicken affects the brain. Anyone else got any more inaccurate partisan drivel to spoon out?
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| Stirlingsays 20 Mar 19 11.43pm |
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All of this concern over lowering food standards. You guys have obviously never bought a Lidi Cornish Pastie. I'm amazed I'm still here.
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| Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 20 Mar 19 11.52pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Actually a combination of the two. More bollocks. Maybe all that hormonal beef and chlorinated chicken affects the brain. Anyone else got any more inaccurate partisan drivel to spoon out? It's why we had a Foot & Mouth outbreak in 2000/2001 Feeding crap to cows & most of it an EU Directive, how's that for partisan drivel? Now back to you're Pilates & wind your neck in.
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| Matov 20 Mar 19 11.52pm |
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Actually, those Salmonella stats are fascinating (yes, I know, bloody sad). I appreciate the 1.2 million cases is a CDC estimate but how many are actually reported? For example, there were over 94,000 cases reported across the EU in 2016. Is the criteria for measuring it an agreed international standard? Or is it based solely on hospitalisations? I understand that most cases are from eggs or egg derived products. How would that impact on beef? Genuine question here because I do like to understand how data is arrived at.
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Pussay Patrol  21 Mar 19 5.50am |
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Originally posted by Matov
They voted for A50. Which is enshrined in our law with a depature date of March 29th. Done and dusted. There is nothing is law that predecates that with a deal agreed. You can't have it both ways
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| Pussay Patrol 21 Mar 19 5.56am |
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Originally posted by Matov
I don't particularly care about the ins and outs to be honest. As others have said, given how litigious the US is, then any genuine health risks would have already been fully exposed and millions paid out. The actual issue here is political. One of the primary drivers, and one I do have some sympathy with, behind this backstop lunacy is because the EU is, quite rightly, looking to prevent the UK from being able to import tariff free beef which will damage the Irish economy in particular. Scare stories about chlorinated Chicken are part of this. The EU's job is to keep the UK locked into its protectionist policies. We leave, and food prices tumble, which I am absolutely confident they will do within 12 months, and the EU is faced with a huge crisis as others see that happening and demand to know why they are still paying over the top prices. Now I don't blame the EU for attempting to do that. What I struggle with is why our establishment is so wedded to the idea that it is fine for the British consumer to be over-charged for the food they eat. The EU which we are part of, protecting our jobs and our industries. You'd rather flood the UK with cheap crap food putting our own companies out of business so you can save a few pennies? Race to the bottom
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| dannyboy1978 21 Mar 19 6.18am |
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Originally posted by Matov
My understanding is that it is not that meat is chlorinated but rather it is such an effective method of killing off any potential nasties, that lower animal welfare standards can be allowed. Why bother spending so much money on ensuring that meat is fit for consumption at the point of slaughter when you can render it safer at a later stage? Why do you care about animal welfare for USA chicken but not UK throat slit chicken
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