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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 21 Mar 19 7.32am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

There are issues with each meat type. Salmonella is primarily related to chicken which is where this thread had been focusing. BSE is also an issue, as is scrapie

The article that I linked to a couple of pages back that you poo pooed stated that whilst American chicken samples had a large percentage that contained salmonella a 2016 study by the UK’s Food Standards Agency found comparable levels of contamination in this country

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 21 Mar 19 8.05am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Blame was 34% the government and 24% MP's.

Polls not my thing but 90% saying that is different.

But were they asked the question I put? Just a thought because polls can be designed to suit any agenda (it's all in the wording of the questions)

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 21 Mar 19 8.07am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Wouldn't be very high

Only 52% want out and only a smaller % want Brexit at all costs

How do you know this? Presumably you have true facts

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 21 Mar 19 8.13am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Actually a combination of the two. More bollocks. Maybe all that hormonal beef and chlorinated chicken affects the brain.

Anyone else got any more inaccurate partisan drivel to spoon out?

Don't bet against Steeleye and Pussay

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 Mar 19 8.23am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

But were they asked the question I put? Just a thought because polls can be designed to suit any agenda (it's all in the wording of the questions)

Exactly ask a member of the pubic who generally votes Tory the following questions:

Who is stronger on the NHS Labour or Tory?

Who is stronger on helping the sick and the poor?

Who is better for pensioners?

Who is better on foreign aid?

Who will you be voting for? (Embarrassed) Err Labour

Works the other way just ask a Labour voter about the economy, defence, law & order.

In fairness most independent pollsters are aware of this and try to be as neutral as possible however there is one disconnect they cannot fix which is people like me.

If I see someone with a clipboard in the high street I swat them away, others may be more polite but the result is the same. Pollsters therefore end up interviewing people who are either actively interested in politics or they have nothing better to do. So people like me are the great un-polled which is why pollsters can be wrong if enough of us refuse to give our opinions.

Of course pollsters also use telephone polls and the internet. Well I put the phone down and I can't be bothered to do internet polls so again you end up with a distorted section of the population.

I suspect that most people with busy lives only think of politics on the day of an election so how can you plan for that.

Then again some of us with nothing better to do prefer to spout on football websites about politics. As they say oop north "there's nowt as queer as folk"

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 21 Mar 19 9.43am

Originally posted by Spiderman

How do you know this? Presumably you have true facts

Just applied a bit of logic

If the number cannot be higher than 52, then take out the rational people I'd say its anywhere between 0 - 30%

Whats your opinion?

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 21 Mar 19 9.48am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11


If I see someone with a clipboard in the high street I swat them away, others may be more polite but the result is the same. Pollsters therefore end up interviewing people who are either actively interested in politics or they have nothing better to do. So people like me are the great un-polled which is why pollsters can be wrong if enough of us refuse to give our opinions.

Judging by informal polls on BBC News I thought that they picked out the stupidest looking people to ask their opinions

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 21 Mar 19 9.58am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Good point well made

Albeit Aldi is actually one of the best at managing its food supply chain, usually buying locally.

Along with the Lidl in New Addington.

It's the Mecca......I must go there at some point.....I actually have an 'Aunt' in New Addington.....though she's quite a feminist hippy and thinks I make Neanderthal look good......though weirdly enough all her long term partners were rather nasty alphas.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Mar 2019 10.02am)

 


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W12 21 Mar 19 10.02am

Who is stronger on the NHS Labour or Tory? Stronger? the answer here is neither when we are bringing in 250,000 net new people per year (more if you take into account significant numbers leaving the country) you simply cannot keep up and cannot keep taxing people to support a bloated NHS and social security system.

Who is stronger on helping the sick and the poor? Labour are significantly worse as they spread the socialist lie that it's OK to steal other peoples money because you are poorer. Very few are truly poor in the west as capitalism continues to improve prosperity both in the west and the 3rd world.

Who is better for pensioners? Ask my mum who worked all her life and now has Parkinsons and can't get decent treatment because much of the money she paid in national insurance is re-directed to economic migrants. So again neither Labour nor Tory.

Who is better on foreign aid? Better in what way? Cameron decided to commit billions to this long term but aid generally makes 3rd world countries more dependent (people thinking food comes off the back of a lorry) whereas capitalism has reduced poverty massively all over the world. The World Health Organization massively underestimated this (targets were hit years in advance). The rise of socialism/communism/Marxism is a huge threat to poor people all over the world.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Mar 19 10.08am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

The article that I linked to a couple of pages back that you poo pooed stated that whilst American chicken samples had a large percentage that contained salmonella a 2016 study by the UK’s Food Standards Agency found comparable levels of contamination in this country

I wish you would put on your glasses before commenting on articles

A 2015 WHO study found that rates of campylobacter infection were similar in the EU and North America. However, it also revealed that infection rates for Salmonella typhi and Salmonella paratyphi were, respectively, four times and five times higher in North America than in Europe.

On another note:

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major, who got pooh-poohed, made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cos it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment. Morale totally destroyed... by pooh-pooh!

Edited by Mapletree (21 Mar 2019 10.10am)

 

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W12 21 Mar 19 10.13am

Originally posted by Mapletree

I wish you would put on your glasses before commenting on articles

A 2015 WHO study found that rates of campylobacter infection were similar in the EU and North America. However, it also revealed that infection rates for Salmonella typhi and Salmonella paratyphi were, respectively, four times and five times higher in North America than in Europe.

On another note:

You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major, who got pooh-poohed, made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cos it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment. Morale totally destroyed... by pooh-pooh!

Edited by Mapletree (21 Mar 2019 10.10am)

I've had salmonella and it really isn't very nice but I'd take another dose right now to get out of the EUSSR.

 

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View DANGERCLOSE's Profile DANGERCLOSE Flag london 21 Mar 19 10.37am Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Remainers:

Remind me, with actual evidence, why you are so scared of a clean WTO 100% Brexit.

What consequences to you foresee?

 

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