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View DANGERCLOSE's Profile DANGERCLOSE Flag london 21 Mar 19 1.04pm Send a Private Message to DANGERCLOSE Add DANGERCLOSE as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Things will cost more, it will harm the economy in many ways, puts our security at risk

Why do you want it? What do you get out of it personally?

Its not about what i want or what you want, its about democracy.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Online Flag 21 Mar 19 1.10pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

I want it. And am getting excited now because it is all looking more likely by the hour although I have no doubts there are plenty of more twists to come.

Also struggle to understand why prices will go up in the event of a No Deal Brexit. The UK has already stated it will be slashing tarrifs and open up us up to all sorts of cheaper goods.

That is why the crux of why the EU is so desperate to keep us on the inside. It wants to protects its members from having to compete.

Always makes me smile when people who will proclaim themselves as internationalists also ardently defend the EU which is nothing more than a glorified protection racket with the CPA the very antithisis of that. And don't even start me on the Euro and what happend to Greece.

 


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View blackheatheagle's Profile blackheatheagle Flag Beckenham 21 Mar 19 1.15pm Send a Private Message to blackheatheagle Add blackheatheagle as a friend

Originally posted by W12

I would counter "assuming majority of them are taxpayers" with a much fairer assumption that a significant number will be non taxpayers and therefore tax consumers as such.

Well, that seems to be the key failure if my statement is not the fact. Reason why a person comes to a country as an immigrant is supposed to be working, contributing for the economy and paying tax. If numbers show this is not the case (tax they pay is not balancing the services they receive), that is a total failure and would not deny the impact. But that states the failure of governments as well.

I exclude the people who are named as immigrant which became British citizen let`s say by moving to UK decades ago.

By the way, i do not have any proposal that Labour would do it better but i see a stalling strategy from all parties.

Edited by blackheatheagle (21 Mar 2019 1.15pm)

Edited by blackheatheagle (21 Mar 2019 1.16pm)

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Mar 19 1.18pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by W12

First of all the cost of the NHS averages £2,200 per person per year which kind of blows that argument out of the water.

I would counter "assuming majority of them are taxpayers" with a much fairer assumption that a significant number will be non taxpayers and therefore tax consumers as such.

"250,000 newcomer is output of their previous policies" - yes but nobody voted for this and nobody can tell us why when the government state that they want to reduce this to "tens of thousands" it just isn't happening and you know a Labour government would just make this worse. Even worse than this just raising the question immediately exposes you to accusations of racism and you are shut down from all sides. It just has to stop.

I think you need to do more research

The costs associated with immigrants are far lower as they are not in the high consuming demographic for the NHS.

In fact the best thing we could do would be to swap pensioners for immigrants.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 21 Mar 19 1.19pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

A major shop coming tonight at Tescos (cough cough I'm a chav cough ).....I wonder if this shop will be significantly different in five years time.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Mar 19 1.41pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

A major shop coming tonight at Tescos (cough cough I'm a chav cough ).....I wonder if this shop will be significantly different in five years time.

If we crash out it will be different faster than that. As I previously said, immediate failure of a large number of UK farms due to removal of subsidies.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 21 Mar 19 1.54pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

If we crash out it will be different faster than that. As I previously said, immediate failure of a large number of UK farms due to removal of subsidies.

I predict that whatever happens it'll be fine for the shopper....but we'll see I suppose.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 21 Mar 19 2.00pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree


If we crash out it will be different faster than that. As I previously said, immediate failure of a large number of UK farms due to removal of subsidies.

The government has already said that it will match the subsidies available under the CAP until the end of the current parliament.

Cheap European seasonal labour will still be allowed in too

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 21 Mar 19 2.10pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

RACIST.... Rattled are you Hun?

Shakes head at having to make a decision about having to deal with such gargantuan levels of idiocy. Decides to proceed, because, well, why not.

Nah. Just seeing your pithy 'attempts' and raising the bar, I really should ignore it but I do find it exercises the brain. The brain. The brai... never mind.

Any opportunity to use Danny Willetts beautifully crafted words for inspiration is too good to pass up. As is calling out your inaccurate drivel in this instance, which tellingly you've not even attempted to back up or defend in any way. Which is why we are where we are. And that is because...

Now write out 1000 lines 'Xenophobic comments are not the same as Racist ones'.

 


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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 21 Mar 19 2.11pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

The government has already said that it will match the subsidies available under the CAP until the end of the current parliament.

Cheap European seasonal labour will still be allowed in too

I did think this would be the case. The alternative would be unthinkably destructive.

 


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Pussay Patrol Flag 21 Mar 19 2.11pm

Originally posted by Matov

I want it. And am getting excited now because it is all looking more likely by the hour although I have no doubts there are plenty of more twists to come.

Also struggle to understand why prices will go up in the event of a No Deal Brexit. The UK has already stated it will be slashing tarrifs and open up us up to all sorts of cheaper goods.

That is why the crux of why the EU is so desperate to keep us on the inside. It wants to protects its members from having to compete.

Always makes me smile when people who will proclaim themselves as internationalists also ardently defend the EU which is nothing more than a glorified protection racket with the CPA the very antithisis of that. And don't even start me on the Euro and what happend to Greece.

So which are the tariff free trade deals we have in place? We have no trade deals as of 30 March. I thought WTO was a reciprocal arrangement so how would we lower tarrifs in that respect?

So the EU is protecting all of its members except the UK?

I don't think you've thought this through

Edited by Pussay Patrol (21 Mar 2019 2.12pm)

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 Mar 19 2.17pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Petitions site crashes after 600,000 back call to revoke article 50....

Oh yeah that was me and my leaver friends in Russia unfortunately its back up now.

 


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