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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Apr 19 9.52am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Briefly poking my vole's snout into this debate - in terms of May's decision to involve Corbyn and his comrades,paying the political price of this decision, only to find that there appears to be no actual benefits to it – because Labour are unlikely to want to be helpful, and because their idea of helpful is neither acceptable nor desirable to the Government is the worst of both worlds.

The only person who has gained so far is Corbyn, who accrues a little more legitimacy, and walks a little taller, when a Tory Prime Minister comes begging for his help. And that’s bad news all round.

I shall now return to the football debates !

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 06 Apr 19 9.54am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

On the experts comment, I think you’re right.

we should’ve listened to Mark Carney’s apocalypse speeches, only now he says it won’t be anywhere near as bad and will be okay he’s surely not an expert after all?

I believe that an "expert" as far as the media is concerned is anyone who will open his mouth and give a statement

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 06 Apr 19 9.55am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I shall now return to the football debates !

You keep saying that but you're like a moth drawn to a light bulb and can't keep away

 

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jeeagles Flag 06 Apr 19 10.22am

Originally posted by Willo

Briefly poking my vole's snout into this debate - in terms of May's decision to involve Corbyn and his comrades,paying the political price of this decision, only to find that there appears to be no actual benefits to it – because Labour are unlikely to want to be helpful, and because their idea of helpful is neither acceptable nor desirable to the Government is the worst of both worlds.

The only person who has gained so far is Corbyn, who accrues a little more legitimacy, and walks a little taller, when a Tory Prime Minister comes begging for his help. And that’s bad news all round.

I shall now return to the football debates !

Showing up Corbyn for not looking for not helping find a solution will detract from the political gain he achieved.

The constant talk of extensions from the EU are showing that they too are scared of a no deal, and they don't want to be the ones to initiate it. I

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 06 Apr 19 10.41am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

But wages went up, I don't think people care
About the economy growing anymore, as people don't see a tangible Benifit. Schools struggle, police/knife crime, cuts in public services and this was before brexit.

Buisness needs to take less profit and pay the workers.
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Did your wages go up?

 


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View Rubin's Profile Rubin Flag 06 Apr 19 11.21am Send a Private Message to Rubin Add Rubin as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I didn’t write this, but it partly sums up my attitude towards the hypocrisy on the leave side, and to a lesser extent the remain side flip flopping between criticising MPs then expecting them to deliver.

‘The idiots panting we should ‘just leave’ and ‘we will be ok’ and ‘believe in Britain’ and other assorted spewey phrases of unconsidered putrid bile and fetid hot air need to remember that in order for no deal to be a success, THE SAME PEOPLE that are in charge of the current s*** show right now will have to make it so.

There will be a change in leader, but the troops will remain the same.

This is honestly the worst thing about the Brexit Fiasco.

The empowerment, encouragement and normalisation of this cloudcuckooland blind-faith attitude. Famous politicians and celebrities are saying this stuff, and it has trickled down to the Brexit proletariat.

It is, without hyperbole, the road to societal collapse. It’s the antithesis of the scientific method, of the entire modern world, of good governance, of any sort of basic preparation or project management.

‘Something will turn up’ is the feckless ethos of the pawnshop, although in the case of the pawnshop it’s usually caused by the desperation of poverty rather than propagandistic racism.

Goves ‘the British people are fed up with experts’ was the most important soundbite to come out of Brexit. A special plague on that c***.

Can they not imagine what it will be like when they’ve won? How will they govern without ‘expertise’ from the ‘experts’ they’ve poisoned the well against? Or will there be authorised Brexiter experts, like Pat Minford, who will be listened to?

What then, when they’ve caused catastrophes with their nonsense? Do they remain in place as ‘experts’ like the WW1 Generals who’ve just sent 450,000 troops into machine gun fire in a single day and are kept around to do it all again tomorrow?

Mooo, in the words of Lord Melchett.’

Made me laugh anyway.

Thats based on the premise that they've actually given leaving successfully a proper go. They haven't. They've dragged it out and achieved very little intentionally, as the majority of them want us to remain.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 06 Apr 19 12.53pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Still waiting for Brexit.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 06 Apr 19 1.09pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Still waiting for Brexit.

Godot is bringing it.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 06 Apr 19 1.15pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Godot is bringing it.

Ain't that the truth.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 06 Apr 19 1.28pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

A shambles on which the sun never sets.......

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 06 Apr 19 1.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

A shambles on which the sun never sets.......


Was that your chat up line?

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 06 Apr 19 1.55pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

On the experts comment, I think you’re right. We should’ve joined the Euro, because we missed out on the excitement when it went t1ts up, and we should’ve listened to Mark Carney’s apocalypse speeches, only now he says it won’t be anywhere near as bad and will be okay he’s surely not an expert after all?


Yep, I've noticed this as well.

When you hang around long enough you learn that when it comes to prediction the word 'expert' is a misleading word. It's why people still place bets at the bookies.

Indeed, I've lived long enough to witness people presented in glowing terms say many things that turned out to be inaccurate.

So for me, an 'expert' isn't involved in the theoretical.....You may have very knowledgeable people but I regard the word, 'expert' to be misplaced.

An expert is someone involved in the tangible, who can demonstrate an expertise repeatedly. A surgeon, an architect, a carpenter....so on and so forth.

 


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