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 Badger11  Beckenham 27 May 19 8.15am |
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Alistair Campbell is spinning that last night was a victory for the Remain parties. Thank god he doesn't do my taxes.
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| silvertop Portishead 27 May 19 8.24am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
No that's not accurate. Soft leavers would still have voted for Labour due to their policy of actually leaving. What is true is that no 'no deal' voters would have voted Labour. The real split between leave and remain isn't really knowable and that was always the case with Labour's position. There is something of a north south divide for labour. Down here no labour supporter backs no deal. Try having that conversation in Northumberland or Lincolnshire. One of the main reasons for labour's ambiguity on the issue. That and the fact that their leader is a fanatical brexiteer who voted remain.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 27 May 19 8.25am |
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The only way to have got a fully accurate picture of leave/remain feeling would have been for the remain camp to have started The Remain Party in direct competition to The Brexit Party. All this adding up various parties votes to compare against the Brexit Party is fantasy.
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| silvertop Portishead 27 May 19 8.25am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Alistair Campbell is spinning that last night was a victory for the Remain parties. Thank god he doesn't do my taxes. 53% remain. Maths not you strong point?
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cpfc_chap  koh samui 27 May 19 8.32am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I disagree as I think that most leavers would have voted for Brexit Party as a lesson to Parliament as to what we want with Remainers voting Lib Dem or Green in desperation to try and get another referendum They would have voted Brexit for sure I am talking general turnout of voters! Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage said he was ready to "take on" the Tories and Labour in a general election.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 27 May 19 8.40am |
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Please break that down are you including Labour in the Remain? They are not a Remain party.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 27 May 19 8.58am |
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This is a classic from the BBC straight out of the Stalin book for accountancy. 1.Anti Brexit 40.4 (Lib Dems, Green, SNP, Change UK Plaid) So the Anti Brexit parties have it. Hang on why are the Tories and Labour not included? If they are excluded because they are more than just about Brexit well then that also applied to the Lib Dems. Green, SNP etc. If you are going to tally up the parties you have to include Labour and Tory as Brexit which is their official policy.
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Attachment: | dannyboy1978 27 May 19 9.02am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
This is a classic from the BBC straight out of the Stalin book for accountancy. 1.Anti Brexit 40.4 (Lib Dems, Green, SNP, Change UK Plaid) So the Anti Brexit parties have it. Hang on why are the Tories and Labour not included? If they are excluded because they are more than just about Brexit well then that also applied to the Lib Dems. Green, SNP etc. If you are going to tally up the parties you have to include Labour and Tory as Brexit which is their official policy. I totally agree, I find the spin embaracing
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| Stirlingsays 27 May 19 9.07am |
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The BBC are so impartial, so objective. Unfit for purpose.
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| Stirlingsays 27 May 19 9.09am |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
The only way to have got a fully accurate picture of leave/remain feeling would have been for the remain camp to have started The Remain Party in direct competition to The Brexit Party. All this adding up various parties votes to compare against the Brexit Party is fantasy.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 27 May 19 9.20am |
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I am so mad I have just complained to the BBC I expect they will have a BS response but it's really disgusting. I think you can argue that The Brexit party, UKIP and Change UK are pretty much Brexit related parties. I would imagine supporters of all other parties would argue they have other policies and are a more broad based church. So I don't see how you can argue that the Tories and Labour should be not be included in the numbers whilst counting the Lib Dems and the Greens etc. I am spitting feather.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 27 May 19 9.22am |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
The only way to have got a fully accurate picture of leave/remain feeling would have been for the remain camp to have started The Remain Party in direct competition to The Brexit Party. All this adding up various parties votes to compare against the Brexit Party is fantasy. Agreed as the BBC slide shows. I really hope Labour becomes a full on Remain party so we get rid of the ambiguity.
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