I’m sorry to hear that. Where did this happen?

COYP

As I have said many, many times I detest Corbyn and far left politics just as much as I detest the far right politics now being promulgated by this government.

I am a traditional "one nation" Tory who, by the way, thinks Ken Clarke represents all that I value in the party.

I also believe in Parliamentary and not direct democracy. Referendums are no way to decide complex issues and can be manipulated by malign influences to suit agendas against our actual interests.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Especially when the lying b******s who agreed to not only give us a referendum and also honour the outcome stab us in the back.

So lets get back to Parliamentary democracy. And since no party has an over-all majority and cannot form a government then a general election is the most logical way forward.

Referendums are a dead-end. That is clear now. So lets go to the country in a GE.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Self assured he most certainly wasn't, especially early in the day when he was being pressed on what "progress" had been made in the "negotiations" and what his "proposed deal" was. He was confused and full of repetitive bluster.

Framing this as any kind of attempt by Corbyn to take power is both clearly wrong and, in my opinion, a huge mistake tactically. Using such phrases as "Corbyn's Surrender Bill" might play well with the already committed in the blue rinse shires, and some on these pages, but it isn't going to impress too many others.

This is an attack by Johnson on Parliament and Corbyn isn't Parliament.

Everyone knows Corbyn is a very reluctant recruit to this cause and has only been forced there by those behind him.

Any election will see a range of opponents line up against Johnson, including some heavyweights who were previously on his side and who will gain plenty of air time. The opposition may differ politically but they will be united in opposing Johnson's strategy.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

As mentioned repeatedly, the problem is Parliament - repeatedly!!!

Labour finding an excuse to avoid the election!

Cowards and weasels.....Corbyn was talking big and now it's 'only on my terms'.

Boris will no doubt have the vote tonight and show to the country that Labour are too scared to go to the polls.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Sep 2019 10.03am)

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