Literally how much more smug and condescending can these c***s get?

I am very close to completely losing my s*** and suspect I’m very much not on my own.

We are so worried.....

You are not on your own. I am seeing people now starting to voice all sorts of rage. If we are not out by October 31st then all bets are off.

And do not forget that those keenest on s***ting all over 17 million people are the ones who were the smuggest about Remain winning in the first place. And then telling us that Trump never stood a chance.

I appreciate that the narrative from Remainers is that it is us Leavers who are meant to be the thick ones but I am sure that I know what the word 'Leave' meant on June 23rd as I am sure you did. The thick ones are these divvy Remainers who seem to struggle with not only maths (52 v 48 ) but also a basic understanding of what simple words mean.

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1) Check Companies House

2) Point proven

Who made Remainers the arbiters of us needing more time to consider? Where was the option mentioned to us in the run up to the vote in 2016?

They are not. Parliament is. It wasn't mentioned only because no-one had appreciated quite how complicated it would turn out to be.

And I am fascinated to understand how you 'protect' British democracy by doing your utmost to have over 17 million votes discarded. Because every single person pushing for a second referendum with 'Remain' as an option is a Remainer. The losers. The ones whose arguments failed.

No votes are being discarded. Things have just evolved and moved on. No referendum trumps either the right or the duties of parliament. It has nothing at all with who voted remain or leave, despite your repeated wish to allocate blame. Those who want a second referendum don't include me, so any explanation I give is simply to try to assist. Those that do think it wise, after all that has transpired, to verify what people want now, and not what they wanted then.

You want A50 revoked. But you still want to think of yourself as one of the good guys. As a democrat. As somebody who believes voting is important. Who hates the thought of dictatorship.

I want our Parliament to decide. Not me or you. That is how our democracy actually works. Go down the route of allowing the executive to control parliament is a short road to dictatorship.

And yet will s*** on over 17 million people who voted in total good faith on June 23rd 2016. If people like you were promoting a second referendum on the basis of people being offered either a No-Deal exit or one with a deal, then I might just about be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt in terms of your self-proclaimed status as a defender of democracy. But you want the losing 'Remain' option not only included and actually weighted in favour of. Otherwise why not just re-run June 23rd again? If that many people have switched to your side, what is wrong with asking the same question again?

Again, I don't want a referendum but as the one with the 3 options on the ballot seems likely to deliver a result which would see a "deal" winning it seems preferable. What we would get obviously would depend on the make up of the future parliament and that depends on us. All of us together and not just either you or me

I loathe the Lib Dems but they have the courage of their convictions. They believe that Parliament has a duty to ignore what the 52% voted for. I can respect them for that. That stance takes a certain kind of courage.

No they don't. As I explained above some people think that things have changed sufficiently that there might now be more wishing to remain than leave, and the LibDems will stand on that platform. Right now they are arguing for a new referendum. That's not ignoring the referendum. It's accepting the reality that things don't stand still.

But this 'Peoples vote' bulls***? Nah. That is shameful s***. Because this Brexit mayhem continues and ramps up in ways that hold the potential to rip this nation apart. Because why would I vote ever again? If my vote does not count on June 23rd then it will never count again. It is rendered invalid. All because people who did not even vote Leave somehow think we don't know what the word 'leave' means. And that is all on the likes of you. Not me. I voted Leave and expect my vote to be honoured, just like I was promised. You want to dishonour that, then have the cojenes to be proud of that.

Not at all. I just think that you don't understand parliamentary democracy and how it works. Maybe one day you will come to understand why I feel so strongly that referendums are such a bad idea. The last 3 years are pretty conclusive evidence.

Edited by Matov (18 Sep 2019 8.44pm)