No, it’s people from s*** cultures where life is cheap and disputes are routinely sorted out with brutality and violence. The kind of culture we left behind a long time ago. The fact that they don’t integrate (integration is now racist remember) and are coming in numbers that makes that almost impossible means that it doesn’t matter if they are 1st generation or 3rd. They share very little by way of traditional values with the indigenous people of these islands. We also continue to tell them that white British people are all racists and hate them which is not true. It’s not their fault but human nature. It doesn’t mean we put up with it though.

Why do people think that their countries of origin are so s*** in the first place? Something in the water perhaps?

Read again what you originally wrote!

You followed criticism of our "immigration policy" with a remark about the rise in knife and other crime. Are you now telling me that you weren't trying to associate those two things and it was purely a coincidence you happened to mention them together?

I totally agree that your place of birth means nothing and that culture means a lot more, although not that it always dictates.

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Tell me. Just how many generations do you think we have to go back before someone is no longer to be regarded as an immigrant? 1? 2? 5? 10? 100?

If the last 2 then almost all of us are, at least in part, immigrants.

Or do you actually just mean "black"?

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Never in the field of human conflict was so much boll@x written by so many to so few.

Poverty is not the root cause. The black community and white liberal apologists like you are.

There are plenty of p@ss poor white, Indian, Chinese and Polish kids, however they generally don't go round carrying knives.

Its a culture fing, innit?

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

It's been a while since I spent any time in the East End and a year or two since I even passed through but I watch the TV reports just like everyone else.

Dealing with illegal immigration is obviously a big problem but I cannot see why ending freedom of movement will help with that as we already have border controls which check everyone. Except the illegals.

As a young man I went to college in Whitechapel and have drunk a beer in the Blind Beggar. All at the time when the Krays ruled the roost running the most insidious protection rackets. The Krays were 100% British.

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Indeed but they didn't go around stabbing innocent girls in the park. They were very nasty pieces of work but I doubt they ever harmed a woman or child