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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Oct 19 2.58pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Leave didn’t have to win the enhance his career.

He said in 2015: “I think that there is a very valid future for this country not in the EU. It’s not my preference, because there are some downsides.” - what changed between then and him declaring for leave?

Also widely reported that he wrote a reveal article for both leave and remain positions prior to publicly declaring for leave; his position was dependent on benefit to him, he knew he could argue both sides well enough.

We don't know what was in his mind however another way of looking at his 2 documents is that of a thoughtful man. He puts the pros and cons down on paper to crystallise his thinking, in politics this is known as opposition research. I have no problem with Corbyn writing a pro nuclear paper if that helps him understand the argument for nuclear disarmament better.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 09 Oct 19 3.02pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Britain has turned against Brexit and would now vote to stay in the European Union, according to the biggest ever poll-of-polls.

The YouGov analysis for the Evening Standard of 300 surveys shows “concrete” evidence that the country shifted against quitting the European bloc in the year after the June 2016 referendum and has steadfastly stuck to this position ever since.

One of the most striking findings is that 204 out of 226 polls since July 2017 have shown Remain ahead, with just seven for Leave, and 15 ties.

Since July 2017 the public has wanted to remain in the EU.

Why can parliament simply not admit it and end the whole disaster?

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 09 Oct 19 3.13pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

We don't know what was in his mind however another way of looking at his 2 documents is that of a thoughtful man. He puts the pros and cons down on paper to crystallise his thinking, in politics this is known as opposition research. I have no problem with Corbyn writing a pro nuclear paper if that helps him understand the argument for nuclear disarmament better.

Sure, or you could view it as someone with no principles who’s willing to back whichever way the wind blows to further his career.

I know which one I suspect of Mr Johnson.

‘Opposition research’ is 90% of what I do on here

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Oct 19 3.18pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Britain has turned against Brexit and would now vote to stay in the European Union, according to the biggest ever poll-of-polls.

The YouGov analysis for the Evening Standard of 300 surveys shows “concrete” evidence that the country shifted against quitting the European bloc in the year after the June 2016 referendum and has steadfastly stuck to this position ever since.

One of the most striking findings is that 204 out of 226 polls since July 2017 have shown Remain ahead, with just seven for Leave, and 15 ties.

Since July 2017 the public has wanted to remain in the EU.

Why can parliament simply not admit it and end the whole disaster?

Too bad since the referendum was in 2016. We would have been out of Europe long ago if it wasn't for Remainers.

 

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W12 09 Oct 19 3.37pm

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It’s amazing how quickly things are going south.

These people are terrifying.

 

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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 09 Oct 19 3.51pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by W12

[Link]

It’s amazing how quickly things are going south.

These people are terrifying.

Am I being thick, or does that article date from March 2001?

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 09 Oct 19 3.55pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by W12

[Link]

It’s amazing how quickly things are going south.

These people are terrifying.

That's from 18 years ago though???

 

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 09 Oct 19 3.56pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

Am I being thick, or does that article date from March 2001?

hahaha. You are not. Unbelievable.

Doesn't even read the article properly – how are people expected to take others seriously if they simply post headlines?

That said, it doesn't surprise me.

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 09 Oct 19 4.11pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by W12

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It’s amazing how quickly things are going south.

These people are terrifying.

18 years isn’t that quickly to be fair.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Oct 19 4.44pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

hahaha. You are not. Unbelievable.

Doesn't even read the article properly – how are people expected to take others seriously if they simply post headlines?

That said, it doesn't surprise me.

But we should have seen the signs back then.

 

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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 09 Oct 19 4.47pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's been a while since I spent any time in the East End and a year or two since I even passed through but I watch the TV reports just like everyone else.

Dealing with illegal immigration is obviously a big problem but I cannot see why ending freedom of movement will help with that as we already have border controls which check everyone. Except the illegals.

As a young man I went to college in Whitechapel and have drunk a beer in the Blind Beggar. All at the time when the Krays ruled the roost running the most insidious protection rackets. The Krays were 100% British.

You cant see freedom of movement being a problem....really.
The scum who carried out the atrocities in France, moved between Belgium and France...using freedom of movement.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Oct 19 4.51pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

You cant see freedom of movement being a problem....really.
The scum who carried out the atrocities in France, moved between Belgium and France...using freedom of movement.

Indeed.
Keeping track of people is now incredibly difficult.

 

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