I'm gonna say this once. If BJ gets this over the line and we - at least technically - leave before the end of the month the Tories will regroup and keep power for some time. BJ will have earned it. Labour will implode as all their factions combust corbyn gets ousted and the moderate parliamentary party spend the next 5 years in opposition wrestling power from the fruitloop left. Meanwhile the lib dems moment will have gone and they will disappear into the political abyss.

That said things wont go entirely as the ultra right posters on here would hope. BJ works for BJ and he cannot continue to operate as a voice for the ERG and the rest of the swivel eyed loons. They will have served their purpose and will be conveniently sidelined as he pursues an esssentially liberal agenda.

Those hoping that leaving will result in the working population moving into a low wage zero hours market living purely to pay taxes to fund their generous pensions and other benefits will be sorely disappointed.

Immigration will be bearly touched as most of the economic migrants you detest are non EU and the issue was never free movement or laissez faire regulations but our under resourced sieve like border controls. That issue will grumble on.

There is also the risk that us remoaners were right all along and that our predictions of doom were not just project fear. Sadly unless a sensible centrist labour party emerges thank of effective opposition will mean more years of hung parliaments and political stasis.

One thing is certain - none of the other 27 would be dondaft as to follow our lead unless there is a clear and obvious surge in our economy and living standards.

I thought that we were all duped by Mr Putin

I'm gonna say this once. If BJ gets this over the line and we - at least technically - leave before the end of the month the Tories will regroup and keep power for some time. BJ will have earned it. Labour will implode as all their factions combust corbyn gets ousted and the moderate parliamentary party spend the next 5 years in opposition wrestling power from the fruitloop left. Meanwhile the lib dems moment will have gone and they will disappear into the political abyss.

That said things wont go entirely as the ultra right posters on here would hope. BJ works for BJ and he cannot continue to operate as a voice for the ERG and the rest of the swivel eyed loons. They will have served their purpose and will be conveniently sidelined as he pursues an esssentially liberal agenda.

Those hoping that leaving will result in the working population moving into a low wage zero hours market living purely to pay taxes to fund their generous pensions and other benefits will be sorely disappointed.

Immigration will be bearly touched as most of the economic migrants you detest are non EU and the issue was never free movement or laissez faire regulations but our under resourced sieve like border controls. That issue will grumble on.

There is also the risk that us remoaners were right all along and that our predictions of doom were not just project fear. Sadly unless a sensible centrist labour party emerges thank of effective opposition will mean more years of hung parliaments and political stasis.

One thing is certain - none of the other 27 would be dondaft as to follow our lead unless there is a clear and obvious surge in our economy and living standards.

What has that got to do with the question I asked?

An actual answer rather than more of the same old self justification might take us forward.

I would though be interested to know what you think the EU has planned for the next four years. Once that's known we can check it for truth and if untrue try to see where the fake story has come from,

As we’re still refinancing debt from WW1 we’ve been in hock to the USA for a long time.

OT: We actually paid off the last of the US war loans in 2006.[/https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/12/03/the-uk-government-is-not-about-to-pay-off-all-world-war-one-debt-dont-be-ridiculous/

I thought so too. Seems to be complicated!