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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 22 Oct 19 9.01am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What's your point?

Of course others have family. I have never suggested or thought otherwise!

The only point I have been making is that as the future affects them very much more than it affects us the decision on remaining or leaving ought to be weighted in their interests rather than ours.

If you genuinely believe that by leaving they will have a better future then, whilst I disagree with you, I respect that decision. If however you are voting solely on your own preference then I urge you to think of their's too.

So your saying somone with life experience who may have voted in the 1970's referendum and has a wider view of life is less likely to vote correctly in the UK'S interest than teens?
You want to put the future in the hands of kids just because they arnt 13 any more but 16. It goes against the grain of life, respect your elders for they have knowledge. Why are chairman old and not teens?
Why are bank managers old and not teens?
Why are surgeons old and not teens. EXPERIENCE.
Selfish traitor clutching at straws is all you are , and that is factually correct statement not a slur

 

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 22 Oct 19 9.16am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I won't give you the names of my children and grandchildren! I have two daughters, 3 granddaughters and a grandson. My daughters are 54 and 47, their husbands are 54 and 36. My granddaughters are 27, 21 and 13 and my grandson rising 18. That's enough detail.

missed the point wissy, he meant name the countries NOT YOUR BLOODY KIDS..other than you who cares about your kids?

 

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View robdave2k's Profile robdave2k Flag 22 Oct 19 9.17am Send a Private Message to robdave2k Add robdave2k as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I won't give you the names of my children and grandchildren! I have two daughters, 3 granddaughters and a grandson. My daughters are 54 and 47, their husbands are 54 and 36. My granddaughters are 27, 21 and 13 and my grandson rising 18. That's enough detail.

I’ll bet Christmas is a bundle of laughs in your house judging by your posts on this thread.

 

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Originally posted by Badger11

I think we are about to see a change of tactics from Remainers.

They will no longer vote against the bill but will instead vote for amendments and against the timetable. That way they can say to the electorate we want a deal but...

1. We need more time.
Well it was the Remainers and Bercow who have been running the clock down. You want more time do what the rest of the UK does when it has a deadline, work late nights and weekends but I doubt you are proposing that.

The Lisbon Treat was passed in 5 days and as much of this bill is the same as May's they only need to focus on the changes.

2. I support the bill I have just a few changes.
These are wrecking amendments pure and simple. The treaty has been agreed with the EU and any significant changes would have to go back through that process assuming the EU was willing to listen. It's also dishonest if you don't like the deal then vote against it.

I suspect that Boris will lose on the timetable and possibly even on the amendments at which point he will withdraw the bill. Remainers can then blame him and vice versa.

Whilst I am annoyed with Parliament and it often seems I am supporting Boris's bill I don't like it and I would prefer a clean Brexit. I just see more fudge and delay.

C'mon Macron you hate the Brits put the boot in you know you want to.

Edited by Badger11 (22 Oct 2019 8.46am)

I have thought for a while that all of this, even negotiating the "deal", was really electioneering window dressing being stage managed by Cummings. Johnson is either the Pantomime villain or the reluctant martyr depending on your point of view.

I think the WAB will get it's second reading but cannot decide whether the timetable motion will be approved or not. Would it be tactically better for the opposition for Johnson to withdraw the bill prior to the amendments being debated, or for it to be allowed to proceed and the arguments given the oxygen of publicity, but the debates stalled so that they cannot be concluded by Oct 31st if the amendments fail, or rushed to a conclusion if they succeed? At which point I suspect Johnson would again pull the deal. If they succeeded it would send a strong message to the voters, so that's probably my favourite.

Whichever way It now looks pretty sure we will be requiring an extension so we can hold a GE and for a new Parliament to take this forward. Will we get that extension? Looks almost certain to me, as although the EU don't want any more delays too, they don't want a no deal crash out even more.

 

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Originally posted by the silurian

missed the point wissy, he meant name the countries NOT YOUR BLOODY KIDS..other than you who cares about your kids?

As the subject was my children and the countries had already been named if that really was the point then it wasn't me who missed it. It was missing.

 

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Originally posted by robdave2k

I’ll bet Christmas is a bundle of laughs in your house judging by your posts on this thread.


Oh we have loads of fun, don't concern yourselves.

When we need a good belly laugh we only have to remind each other some of the reasons why people think it's a good idea to leave the EU!

Last Christmas we improvised a Two Ronnies sketch with two leavers in a pub doing just that. The opportunities for humour that you all provide is endless. Have you not watched the Mash report?

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 22 Oct 19 9.38am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


Oh we have loads of fun, don't concern yourselves.

When we need a good belly laugh we only have to remind each other some of the reasons why people think it's a good idea to leave the EU!

Last Christmas we improvised a Two Ronnies sketch with two leavers in a pub doing just that. The opportunities for humour that you all provide is endless. Have you not watched the Mash report?

Not Sketches by Boz?

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 22 Oct 19 9.48am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


Oh we have loads of fun, don't concern yourselves.

When we need a good belly laugh we only have to remind each other some of the reasons why people think it's a good idea to leave the EU!

Last Christmas we improvised a Two Ronnies sketch with two leavers in a pub doing just that. The opportunities for humour that you all provide is endless. Have you not watched the Mash report?

There is the problem, you against us, short sighted and vengfull,

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 22 Oct 19 9.49am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What's your point?

Of course others have family. I have never suggested or thought otherwise!

The only point I have been making is that as the future affects them very much more than it affects us the decision on remaining or leaving ought to be weighted in their interests rather than ours.

If you genuinely believe that by leaving they will have a better future then, whilst I disagree with you, I respect that decision. If however you are voting solely on your own preference then I urge you to think of their's too.

This is a sound principle. There needs to be a statutory age over which voting rights are discontinued. No one over 70 can vote as they don’t have the same investment in the future. No vote = no opinion. What’s next? Anyone reaching 70 should be turned into Soylent Green to preserve the planets resources and have their assets seized by the state for the greater good. After, of course, being whipped through the streets for being so unspeakably selfish as not to have died the day they stopped working.


 

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W12 22 Oct 19 9.51am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Have you not watched the Mash report?

Like many people I have only watched it once.

Clown world.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 22 Oct 19 10.11am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Farage: PM's Brexit deal 'would turn UK into EU colony'

He is quite right, why everybody is stampeding into disaster heaven knows.

F****g Ada, actually agreeing with Farage....

 

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W12 22 Oct 19 10.18am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Farage: PM's Brexit deal 'would turn UK into EU colony'

He is quite right, why everybody is stampeding into disaster heaven knows.

F****g Ada, actually agreeing with Farage....

Which is the same as remaining in the EU

 

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