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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 28 Nov 18 4.30pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Well, back in 87 my sister and mother had been mugged....plus I was attacked a year earlier by a large posse gang where I could have lost my life....but I was lucky to escape with broken bones and scars.

So personally....I think my stepfather deciding to move us out of Stockwell was probably the better long term decision.

Yeh, I know. And without doubt I too would have moved out of St Ockwell at that point. Possibly not now as it's changing quickly.

But there are better places in South London, believe me.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 28 Nov 18 4.31pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

I think it quite nicely sums up all of us posting on this forum. It's all pointless really isn't it?

It passes the time though

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 28 Nov 18 4.38pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I successfully applied for Visas for my staff one to work in Switzerland and lots to come from India to work in the UK. It's a paper filling exercise but there was nothing unreasonable in fact the intention of both was the same. Why is this person required to work in Switzerland or UK instead of a local person. If you can answer that question you will be successful.

My parents applied and got approval to migrate to the USA (they never did as Mum died). My brother who lived in the USA was their sponsor. Again lots of paperwork but the intention was to ensure that my parents would not be a burden to the US taxpayer.

My mate married a Cuban woman in Havana he is complaining that the wedding is not recognised in the UK. It can but he can't be bothered with the paperwork, he would rather complain. He doesn't get that in the past women were trafficked into the UK as "brides". I have no problem with the government making sure that his marriage is genuine. I have doubts myself.

Edited by Badger11 (28 Nov 2018 3.40pm)

I wonder how long ago you did these visas

Switzerland has 3,500 B permits and 4,500 L permits per annum. So you get in the queue. But you can't own a home. And it's time limited. Different though if you are an EU citizen.

Indians really struggle to get permits now, it is harder than it was. And again, tightly time limited. Don't forget the test is whether they have a skill you can't get in any EU country, not simply the UK.

Not anything like our current EU rights is it? Immigration is a hot topic, we will fall foul more and more of tighter rules as people from outside the EU get blocked.

Edited by Mapletree (28 Nov 2018 4.39pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 28 Nov 18 4.42pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Yeh, I know. And without doubt I too would have moved out of St Ockwell at that point. Possibly not now as it's changing quickly.

But there are better places in South London, believe me.


If you have money or are comfortable London can be the best of places.....if you don't...

As is always the case....money and hence location provides a certain level of insulation from the harsher occurrences of reality.

But even that is time limited my man.

Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Nov 2018 4.44pm)

 


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steve1984 28 Nov 18 5.39pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Hopefully..

Yes let's all keep our fingers crossed eh.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 28 Nov 18 6.18pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Hopefully the various vested interests will soon realise that two can play at that game and as the UK is the EU's second largest single export market for goods they are not going to want to upset the applecart

Maybe

But from a political perspective the EU has to be seen to be awkward to avoid more defections.

 

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View cpfc_chap's Profile cpfc_chap Flag koh samui 28 Nov 18 6.40pm Send a Private Message to cpfc_chap Add cpfc_chap as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Really? That is interesting

Which non EU countries are you thinking of? Genuinely I would like to know if you are speaking from a position of authority

I remember needing a local sponsor for many in which I have worked, which was a nightmare

We aren't talking tourism here, but proper work. Tried getting a Green Card in the US? Or perhaps an H1B? Good luck with the quota. Even the 'simple' L1 is a right pain.

I have posted previously about trying to get EU visas for mental health nurses, which proved nigh on impossible. I have also tried to get visas for people to work in Luxembourg recently. Non-EU people really struggle, it's very slow and very uncertain.

All this 'think positive' nonsense is getting in the way of a proper analysis of how this is really going to play out.

Edited by Mapletree (28 Nov 2018 3.32pm)

For living in Thailand and for thais visiting shengen regions

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 28 Nov 18 7.44pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Not a breach, Peffers. It would be if it identifed him personally. Brush up on your GDPR, old chap.

On 19 October 2016, the Court of Justice of the European Union (the "CJEU" published its judgment in Case 582/14 – Patrick Breyer v Germany, in which it held that IP addresses are personal data and can identify an individual.

 


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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 28 Nov 18 8.18pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin

On 19 October 2016, the Court of Justice of the European Union (the "CJEU" published its judgment in Case 582/14 – Patrick Breyer v Germany, in which it held that IP addresses are personal data and can identify an individual.

The court ruled that dynamic IP addresses may constitute ‘personal data’ even where only a third party (in this case an internet service provider) has the additional data necessary to identify the individual – but only under certain circumstances: The possibility to combine the data with this additional data must constitute a “means likely reasonably to be used to identify” the individual (the court assumed such means for Germany).

Not applicable in this instance. Nice try, Peffers.

 


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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 28 Nov 18 8.41pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I think some people said that about Hitler.

For all your rhetoric, you see nothing. The future is for our children and their children. My children.
What we do now impacts on them. The powers that be care not one iota for any of us. We must do what we can to protect ourselves. Any ideas about a harmonious human race moving forward together is delusionary. It is Yoko Ono loopy. The EU is a mechanism of control.

You are happy to be a sheep ready for slaughter.

Yeah, nice attempt at introducing a set of responses to points I didn’t make. As per.

The Hitler drop is just plain silly. Again, seems to get trotted out when in a corner, or as some kind of segue super move.

The general point is what happens in two weeks won’t impact on you. Your general point of view and end of life attitude will die out with your generation. And although not conclusive, that generation overwhelmingly voted to put us in this mess, mainly as a big anti-authoritarian f*** you. I’d have more respect if their votes were actually related to the question being posed.

If you read my apparent contender for most condescending post of the year, I clearly reference the future being decided by people not in the present, but in the past, and with very little to effect them post brexit.

As before, it’s fine to use negative life experiences to drive such a fanatical anti-establishment sentiment, but don’t let it cloud your judgement so much. If anything that statement speaks more to socialism, really. An ideology, incidentally, that I have no interest in. But I’m not too keen on a rampant everyone out for themselves attitude either, as you lay out so wonderfully as being the only remaining choice. Extreme versions of either are the road to ruin.

Also, it’s all very well labelling me a sheep, but what exactly are you doing to attempt to get your point of view heard besides living on this forum? If anything you’re as complicit as I’m apparently supposed to be.

I don’t believe that globalisation = peace, love and harmony. I do believe that there is nothing you can do about it. Fanatical Nationalism, and worse, Ethno Nationalism are damaging and pointless. Love your country, but don’t be a massive dick.

I’m also fully behind leaving, and I don’t agree with a second referendum, which would almost certainly result in another leave vote.

The country is not lost. It might be to you if you’re living in the past, but time doesn’t stand still, and yours is almost up. My head is also clearly not in the sand, but it might be if I was on your beach. It wouldn’t be a big one mind. More a temporary wisp of sand, one wave away from ceasing to exist.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 28 Nov 18 8.43pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by pefwin

On 19 October 2016, the Court of Justice of the European Union (the "CJEU" published its judgment in Case 582/14 – Patrick Breyer v Germany, in which it held that IP addresses are personal data and can identify an individual.


Sorry Peffers this is a little silly. What he said didn't constitute giving away anything specific. If he had given away an actual IP address then perhaps.

Saying I'm with Lloyds bank is not giving away my pin number.

I've taught the DPA.

 


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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 28 Nov 18 8.43pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Well, that's set you up to take the "Most Insultingly Condescending Poster of the Year" Award.

I’ll take that. But I’m not sure it’s admissable. You’re instead of your. Such a shame.

Also I’m not sure I’d win. The cabal would surely take the prize every year simply by sheer volume. Drowning in the stuff. Sometimes quantity over quality does win.

 


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