It's because of the reasoning embodied in the above statement that I am withdrawing from this thread. I have better things to do than constantly try to debate with brick walls. Actually describing the Brexiteer posters here as brick walls is to flatter them. They are more like stone age walls!

To constantly refer to a referendum result as a function of our democracy demonstrates a huge level of ignorance. Our democracy is vested in our Parliament and they can choose to overturn anything if, in the light of events and circumstances, it is their collective will to do so.

I don't believe anyone "won" when in 2016 a very close referendum result was declared. Many things which have nothing to do with the issues can affect such results. When we hold a GE the results can also be so affected but we know that in a few short years we will do it again.

Therefore to cling to the notion that just because 52% outvoted 48% we must adhere to a decision that the majority of our elected representatives disagree with is transparent nonsense. We need to do what is right, and not what is wrong just because of a vote in 2016. It's not up to us to decide what is right, or wrong. It's our representatives job to determine that.

I have encountered the same dumb attitude in other forums. People who hold such views seem all to form a particular sub group of society. I also find it in Trump supporting groups in the USA and anti-immigration groups here.

So I am out of here. No-one is going to change views because of me, as the responses indicate minds pickled in aspic.

We face a calamitous moment in our history so I will play my own small role trying to persuade MPs to do their duty and persuading those who think like me to join in the pressure on them. That's a better use of my time.

At least you all support a decent football club, even if your politics would be more at home at the Den.

My history isn't what it should be but in the Falklands war did the French have any reproctions for supplying missiles to Argentina?

Hey Wisbech do not desert, the brexit resistance (Croydon branch) needs you !!!!!!!!

It's because of the reasoning embodied in the above statement that I am withdrawing from this thread. I have better things to do than constantly try to debate with brick walls. Actually describing the Brexiteer posters here as brick walls is to flatter them. They are more like stone age walls!

To constantly refer to a referendum result as a function of our democracy demonstrates a huge level of ignorance. Our democracy is vested in our Parliament and they can choose to overturn anything if, in the light of events and circumstances, it is their collective will to do so.

I don't believe anyone "won" when in 2016 a very close referendum result was declared. Many things which have nothing to do with the issues can affect such results. When we hold a GE the results can also be so affected but we know that in a few short years we will do it again.

Therefore to cling to the notion that just because 52% outvoted 48% we must adhere to a decision that the majority of our elected representatives disagree with is transparent nonsense. We need to do what is right, and not what is wrong just because of a vote in 2016. It's not up to us to decide what is right, or wrong. It's our representatives job to determine that.

I have encountered the same dumb attitude in other forums. People who hold such views seem all to form a particular sub group of society. I also find it in Trump supporting groups in the USA and anti-immigration groups here.

So I am out of here. No-one is going to change views because of me, as the responses indicate minds pickled in aspic.

We face a calamitous moment in our history so I will play my own small role trying to persuade MPs to do their duty and persuading those who think like me to join in the pressure on them. That's a better use of my time.

At least you all support a decent football club, even if your politics would be more at home at the Den.

It's because of the reasoning embodied in the above statement that I am withdrawing from this thread. I have better things to do than constantly try to debate with brick walls. Actually describing the Brexiteer posters here as brick walls is to flatter them. They are more like stone age walls!

To constantly refer to a referendum result as a function of our democracy demonstrates a huge level of ignorance. Our democracy is vested in our Parliament and they can choose to overturn anything if, in the light of events and circumstances, it is their collective will to do so.

I don't believe anyone "won" when in 2016 a very close referendum result was declared. Many things which have nothing to do with the issues can affect such results. When we hold a GE the results can also be so affected but we know that in a few short years we will do it again.

Therefore to cling to the notion that just because 52% outvoted 48% we must adhere to a decision that the majority of our elected representatives disagree with is transparent nonsense. We need to do what is right, and not what is wrong just because of a vote in 2016. It's not up to us to decide what is right, or wrong. It's our representatives job to determine that.

I have encountered the same dumb attitude in other forums. People who hold such views seem all to form a particular sub group of society. I also find it in Trump supporting groups in the USA and anti-immigration groups here.

So I am out of here. No-one is going to change views because of me, as the responses indicate minds pickled in aspic.

We face a calamitous moment in our history so I will play my own small role trying to persuade MPs to do their duty and persuading those who think like me to join in the pressure on them. That's a better use of my time.

At least you all support a decent football club, even if your politics would be more at home at the Den.

Predictably that's just a long list of insults rather than *any* kind of argument which is in fact all we have been getting other than fear mongering.