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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Feb 19 12.21pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I have to say that quite simply, I was always pro-Brexit And I live in the EU. However, the government, the EU and the media are making me think that, currently, it isn't worth it. Better the devil you know (are already part of).
The worst offenders are our government, spineless and clueless, without direction and without any strategy; they are becoming a laughing stock. If the EU can bully you, you have a serious problem.
The EU are foolish, bureaucratic and largely disconnected from real people and that has to change but at least there is stability currently.
I always looked at Brexit as a wonderful opportunity to be free of red-tape and let Britain forge ahead. It is becoming clear that current politicians and, dare I also include business people in this, are not willing or able to take this opportunity.
I know I will get some flak for this but currently Brexit seems a shambles. Best to come away with something - like Dunkirk perhaps. Postpone Brexit, sort out domestic strategy and wait for the inevitable other major EU country to want out. Then force the EU's hand. This is too rushed at present and too divisive. I don't think Brexiteers are anywhere near a majority now. It is not their fault. Politicians have let this opportunity slip by.

 


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View cpfc_chap's Profile cpfc_chap Flag koh samui 20 Feb 19 12.22pm Send a Private Message to cpfc_chap Add cpfc_chap as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I would like to see that statement please, do you have a link?

This one I guess

[Link]

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Feb 19 12.24pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cpfc_chap


This one I guess

[Link]

And for the sake of the terminally stupid I will post the following extract from their statement:-

"Honda said the move was due to global changes in the car industry and the need to launch electric vehicles, and it had nothing to do with Brexit."

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 20 Feb 19 12.26pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

And for the sake of the terminally stupid I will post the following extract from their statement:-

"Honda said the move was due to global changes in the car industry and the need to launch electric vehicles, and it had nothing to do with Brexit."

No, that isn't a statement from Honda. It is the transcript of an interview

If you read the interview carefully it doesn't say Brexit was not a factor, only that they would have coped had the issue been Brexit alone and not compounded (my word) by other global trends.

Edited by Mapletree (20 Feb 2019 12.28pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 20 Feb 19 12.27pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I have to say that quite simply, I was always pro-Brexit And I live in the EU. However, the government, the EU and the media are making me think that, currently, it isn't worth it. Better the devil you know (are already part of).
The worst offenders are our government, spineless and clueless, without direction and without any strategy; they are becoming a laughing stock. If the EU can bully you, you have a serious problem.
The EU are foolish, bureaucratic and largely disconnected from real people and that has to change but at least there is stability currently.
I always looked at Brexit as a wonderful opportunity to be free of red-tape and let Britain forge ahead. It is becoming clear that current politicians and, dare I also include business people in this, are not willing or able to take this opportunity.
I know I will get some flak for this but currently Brexit seems a shambles. Best to come away with something - like Dunkirk perhaps. Postpone Brexit, sort out domestic strategy and wait for the inevitable other major EU country to want out. Then force the EU's hand. This is too rushed at present and too divisive. I don't think Brexiteers are anywhere near a majority now. It is not their fault. Politicians have let this opportunity slip by.


Man overboard.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 20 Feb 19 12.28pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree


If you read the interview carefully it doesn't say Brexit was not a factor, only that they would have coped had the issue been Brexit alone and not other global trends.

Are you arguing with yourself?

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Feb 19 12.30pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Man overboard.

I thought you would at least call me a pants-wetter.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 20 Feb 19 12.31pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Are you arguing with yourself?

As you know, I am the most argumentative person on the HOL

But no. Any statement that Brexit had nothing to do with Honda's decision is 'fanciful'. It was one of the factors. The Japanese are always careful what they say and we will never find out if it was a minor or a major reason. But it was in the mix.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 20 Feb 19 12.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

No, that isn't a statement from Honda. It is the transcript of an interview

If you read the interview carefully it doesn't say Brexit was not a factor, only that they would have coped had the issue been Brexit alone and not other global trends.


Well, that makes sense to me.

If this was about Brexit they wouldn't' be moving all their production back to Japan by 2021 and instead would re-direct it within Europe.

As usual those with agendas want to overstate their case.

Wages continue to rise since Brexit was announced and unemployment continues to drop.

I've heard nothing but disasters predicted by remainers from before the referendum and after it..... yet there continues to be a gap between what they say and reality on the ground.

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 20 Feb 19 12.38pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I thought you would at least call me a pants-wetter.


Well, that's inevitable if you're overboard.

You might be right about the establishment succeeding in wrecking Brexit from happening.....but to be honest if they do manage to succeed in doing that.....I can't see things being any better.

In the meantime the EU is very close to recession.

 


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View Penge Eagle's Profile Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 20 Feb 19 12.45pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

'Customers could see higher prices and less choice as a result of the proposed merger between Sainsbury's and Asda.' [Link]

No mention of Brexit to blame. Surely a first?

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 20 Feb 19 1.27pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

'Customers could see higher prices and less choice as a result of the proposed merger between Sainsbury's and Asda.' [Link]

No mention of Brexit to blame. Surely a first?

Well, it’s refreshing to see a government agency actually acting in the public interest for a change.

 


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