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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Mar 19 5.42pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

Labour MP Lucy Powell's amendment, which specifies that Article 50 should only be extended until 30 June, has been rejected by 314 votes to 311 - a majority of just three votes.


The pattern of voting against everything continues

I once saw a baby's bib that had a slogan "I don't know what I want but I want it now"

Edited by Badger11 (14 Mar 2019 5.42pm)

 


One more point

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Originally posted by Badger11

I once saw a baby's bib that had a slogan "I don't know what I want but I want it now"

Edited by Badger11 (14 Mar 2019 5.42pm)

Haha sounds about right for this lot

 

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Originally posted by dollardays

Labour MP Lucy Powell's amendment, which specifies that Article 50 should only be extended until 30 June, has been rejected by 314 votes to 311 - a majority of just three votes.


The pattern of voting against everything continues

Should have been further amended to add 90 days to March.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 14 Mar 19 6.21pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Parliament says no.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 14 Mar 19 6.24pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

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Why is he not in The Hague? I am sure PP and Steeleye will support his support for the country he was once PM of

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 14 Mar 19 6.32pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

MPs vote to delay Brexit beyond 29 March.

Haven't the EU said we have to pay a billion a month?.....probably just fake news.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Mar 19 6.51pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

MPs vote to delay Brexit beyond 29 March.

Haven't the EU said we have to pay a billion a month?.....probably just fake news.

I don't have an issue with the indicative vote because it is based on the assumption that Mrs May's deal is approved by Parliament. Not that I want that deal but it is meaningless otherwise.

I don't believe the EU will object for a couple of months delays as they are the major benefactors but if they did I hope May would finally realise we should leave the end of this month without a deal.

The media are now reporting movement from the ERG so it is possible that she will win the day, god help us.

 


One more point

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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 14 Mar 19 7.21pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

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Why is he not in The Hague? I am sure PP and Steeleye will support his support for the country he was once PM of

Once a c*** always a c***,hes got his eye on the European presidents job.

He should be serving time for war crimes.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 14 Mar 19 7.38pm Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

Once a c*** always a c***,hes got his eye on the European presidents job.

He should be serving time for war crimes.

I loathe Tony Blair but a majority of the public supported the Iraq War at the time, and it's been interesting to watch the process of people forgetting their support and adjusting further to a 'throw him in jail' mindset.

"But more than 10 years of opposition is a long time, and many people now remember things differently. Now only 37% of the public say they believed military action against Saddam Hussein was right at the time, instead of the 54% recorded at the time" - [Link]

Peoples attitude is as much about their politics really, rather than some kind of impartial view of the Iraq War.

I am pleased that we're in a period of war fatigue though. In fact, I'd say most conflicts our troops have been sent to have been more about doing someone elses dirty work or enriching corporations rather than keeping anyone safe. We helped royally f*** up parts of the middle east and Blair and support for the war certainly played a part in that. The retrofit comes a bit late for the war dead, both soldiers and civilians.


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I don't think getting an Article 50 extension will be as much of a formality as we think it will. What further embarrassment will May and co drag us through to get it, I wonder? They know she doesn't want a No Deal else none of this nonsense in parliament would be happening, so expect them to turn the screw while she's sucking on her cough drops.

 

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Originally posted by dollardays

I loathe Tony Blair but a majority of the public supported the Iraq War at the time, and it's been interesting to watch the process of people forgetting their support and adjusting further to a 'throw him in jail' mindset.

Blair had huge support for a regime change in Iraq as he insisted that they had WMD that they were about to drop on us

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Blair had huge support for a regime change in Iraq as he insisted that they had WMD that they were about to drop on us

That doesn't explain the significant number of people who conveniently forget they ever supported the war in the first place.

Also most wars and conflicts have propagandised aspects to them because if people seriously considered what was happening or the motivations behind it or who benefits, they would likely be more much hesitant to support it. It was for the people at the time to see the bullsh!t for what it was. If they could not, part of the responsibility is on them, not just the propogandists.

There are rare occasions where war is necessary, then there's doing other peoples dirty work and trusting the government as you wave off a family member to God knows where.

Edited by dollardays (14 Mar 2019 7.57pm)

 

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