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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 11 Apr 19 1.18am Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This situation has been engineered.
If we have another election it will be purely so Parliament can pretend that we actually had a say in all this and attempt to restore some credibility.
That will be a total lie that I hope that even the dumbest people recognise.

The absurdity that we could end up with a very Left wing government out of a vote to leave Europe is a tragic comedy that even Shakespeare would consider too far fetched.


One could certainly be forgiven for believing that, what with these endless can kicking extensions. It's becoming embarrassing at this point.

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 11 Apr 19 1.20am Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Brexit’s never happening lads.

In all likelihood a Brexit of some kind will happen. For the sake of any level of national unity, I'm not sure that just forgetting about the result of the vote will solve anything.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 11 Apr 19 1.22am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

In all likelihood a Brexit of some kind will happen. For the sake of any level of national unity, I'm not sure that just forgetting about the result of the vote will solve anything.

Agreed, but I think it will be in form rather than substance.

Even the most ardent of Brexiteers involved in the detail are realising it’s all too intrinsically linked to make a clean break from the EU.

 


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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 11 Apr 19 1.35am Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by black eagle.

So looks like Brexit is being delayed till Oct 31st.

Can see a 2nd referendum.

It's a possibility, but I think a general election this year is more likely. A new tory leader will then be likely to adopt a different approach to Brexit. We'll move into hard Brexit territory perhaps.

The alternative would be if Labour made further gains. With any other leader I think they would, but does Corbyn have wide enough appeal? He's as if not more unpopular than May. His Brexit approach has been very wishy washy, so that counts against them. He'd be relying on anger at the government and disenfranchised voters staying home. Hard to call.


 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 11 Apr 19 1.39am Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Agreed, but I think it will be in form rather than substance.

Even the most ardent of Brexiteers involved in the detail are realising it’s all too intrinsically linked to make a clean break from the EU.

I think we could very well end up with some kind of one foot in, one foot out situation that nobody's particularly happy about.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 11 Apr 19 1.43am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

I think we could very well end up with some kind of one foot in, one foot out situation that nobody's particularly happy about.

Inevitable.

 


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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 11 Apr 19 5.28am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Brexit’s never happening lads.

Emailed only last night to me from government petitions, sorry lad

"Government responded:

The Government stands by its commitment to uphold the result of the 2016 referendum. We continue to seek a consensus across the House, which will allow the UK to leave the EU with a deal in place.

In 2016, this Government stated that it would honour the result of the referendum, whatever the outcome."

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 11 Apr 19 6.26am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Agreed, but I think it will be in form rather than substance.

Even the most ardent of Brexiteers involved in the detail are realising it’s all too intrinsically linked to make a clean break from the EU.

Except it is not. That is the point. A clean break could have easily been managed over the 2 plus years if the will had been there.

Make no mistake. This has been a stitch up ever since May took office.

They are trying to destroy our will to resist. We need to now elect as many Brexit MEP's as possible and disrupt every single institution of the EU. Take the fight back to Brussels now.

And May needs getting rid of. By hook or by crook. She needs to be out of Number 10 asap.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 11 Apr 19 7.18am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Good response. We know how certain posters on here insist on facts. I remember my dad, a small business owner was incandescent with Heath over this, he never forgave him up to the day he died

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 11 Apr 19 8.17am

Originally posted by dollardays

It's a possibility, but I think a general election this year is more likely. A new tory leader will then be likely to adopt a different approach to Brexit. We'll move into hard Brexit territory perhaps.

The alternative would be if Labour made further gains. With any other leader I think they would, but does Corbyn have wide enough appeal? He's as if not more unpopular than May. His Brexit approach has been very wishy washy, so that counts against them. He'd be relying on anger at the government and disenfranchised voters staying home. Hard to call.


The Tories don't want a GE, they will take a battering for the brexit debacle, they are being propped up by the DUP and with an inevitable swing the other way who else can they go into coalition with? Corbyns popularity won't come into it as he will get all the remain voters and people who vote other right wing parties only helps labour.

The only realistic next government is a labour / SNP coalition

 


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 11 Apr 19 8.27am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Agreed, but I think it will be in form rather than substance.

Even the most ardent of Brexiteers involved in the detail are realising it’s all too intrinsically linked to make a clean break from the EU.

Here's a little analogy for you: if you had lots of sticks in the garden with string all twisted through them, knotted and doubled back, which would be easier - to cut the string, pull it all out and replace it or to spend several days trying to untie it in one piece and re-roll it into a neat ball?

Life is often like a piece of string!

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 11 Apr 19 8.33am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Here's a little analogy for you: if you had lots of sticks in the garden with string all twisted through them, knotted and doubled back, which would be easier - to cut the string, pull it all out and replace it or to spend several days trying to untie it in one piece and re-roll it into a neat ball?

Life is often like a piece of string!

A Gordian Brown knot?

 

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