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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Online Flag Horsham 29 May 19 10.58am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

How about the other 23 individuals or entities I mentioned?

Chancellor of the Exchequer, the multi-millionaire staunch remainer! Wonder why he is gobbing off about staying... he epitomises the reason Brexit has not happened

 

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Originally posted by Maine Eagle

I think if my position is status quo, then it is for you to explain how taking the UK out of a close trading and business mechanism enshrined for over 40 years suddenly overnight, whilst simultaneously ripping up every customs and trading agreement at the same time, makes things BETTER, Spiderman?

Your old pal Pussay Patrol would have expected a Brexiteer, who made such a sweeping comment, to prove it or supply a link. Presumably Remainers do not have to, as appears to be the status quo on here.

 

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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 29 May 19 12.33pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Chancellor of the Exchequer, the multi-millionaire staunch remainer! Wonder why he is gobbing off about staying... he epitomises the reason Brexit has not happened

You keep missing the point, I think your spidey sense is misfiring.

I list over 20 people or groups and you come back with individual responses to 1 or 2 of them.

There is such a thing as Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Something else I have noticed is Brexit Derangement Syndrome.

People who suffer from that think every single person who warns against it is disingenuous and has nefarious ulterior motives.

A BDS sufferer can never accept a single criticism or possible downside of Brexit.

I think the head of the National Union of farmers is warning against a no deal crash out of the EU as it will be a catastrophe for the farming industry.

 


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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 29 May 19 12.35pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Your old pal Pussay Patrol would have expected a Brexiteer, who made such a sweeping comment, to prove it or supply a link. Presumably Remainers do not have to, as appears to be the status quo on here.

Free the PP!

Did he jump ship or was he pushed?

Seem to recall Midlands Eagle wasn’t too fond.

 


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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 29 May 19 12.39pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Trading under WTO rules doesn't actually require there to be a hard border, so it's purely an EU problem.

The hard border is down to who is in the EU and who isn’t.

Generally speaking there needs to be checks and customs etc when trading between an EU and non EU country, particularly for live animals etc.

This means that if there is an overnight no deal exit, then this immediately creates a hard border in Ireland, which is where the backstop debate comes in.

 


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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 29 May 19 12.43pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

You keep missing the point, I think your spidey sense is misfiring.

I list over 20 people or groups and you come back with individual responses to 1 or 2 of them.

There is such a thing as Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Something else I have noticed is Brexit Derangement Syndrome.

People who suffer from that think every single person who warns against it is disingenuous and has nefarious ulterior motives.

A BDS sufferer can never accept a single criticism or possible downside of Brexit.

I think the head of the National Union of farmers is warning against a no deal crash out of the EU as it will be a catastrophe for the farming industry.

Yet Farmers in the South West voted for Brexit invery large numbers - mainly because they see this as an opportunity to escape from the rigidity of EU 'box ticking', as this article explains.....

[Link]

 


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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 29 May 19 12.46pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

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Comedy.

I think someone should answer for that enormous lie.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 29 May 19 1.12pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

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Comedy.

I think someone should answer for that enormous lie.

Agreed it's a publicity stunt. If you have the money and this chap crowd funded it so he will get his day in court.

"Someone is guilty of the offence if a prosecution can prove that the official wilfully neglected to perform their duty - or "misconducts" themselves - to such a degree that it amounts to an abuse of the public's trust in the office holder"

I would imagine that Boris will say his comments were an opinion not misconduct. If he is guilty then the same applies to most politicians of all parties who spin facts.

The £350 million per week claim does not recognise that some of that money comes back to the UK as a rebate. Boris will argue his point was that the rebate comes with strings attached and that having left the EU we can decide 100% how that money is spent.


Edited by Badger11 (29 May 2019 1.12pm)

Update:

I suspect that this judge has overstepped the mark and it will be thrown out on appeal. However if not Tony Blair should be very worried indeed.

Edited by Badger11 (29 May 2019 1.47pm)

Edited by Badger11 (29 May 2019 1.47pm)

 


One more point

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View Rubin's Profile Rubin Flag 29 May 19 1.37pm Send a Private Message to Rubin Add Rubin as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

You keep missing the point, I think your spidey sense is misfiring.

I list over 20 people or groups and you come back with individual responses to 1 or 2 of them.

There is such a thing as Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Something else I have noticed is Brexit Derangement Syndrome.

People who suffer from that think every single person who warns against it is disingenuous and has nefarious ulterior motives.

A BDS sufferer can never accept a single criticism or possible downside of Brexit.

I think the head of the National Union of farmers is warning against a no deal crash out of the EU as it will be a catastrophe for the farming industry.

There's counter examples and opinions to those that you list.

The majority of Brexiters who gave it proper thought accept that there will be some negative consequences of leaving, but cam to the conclusion that overall, leaving is the correct thing to do. No one has ever said it will be perfect. There's no need to strawman.

 

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Originally posted by Badger11

Agreed it's a publicity stunt. If you have the money and this chap crowd funded it so he will get his day in court.

"Someone is guilty of the offence if a prosecution can prove that the official wilfully neglected to perform their duty - or "misconducts" themselves - to such a degree that it amounts to an abuse of the public's trust in the office holder"

I would imagine that Boris will say his comments were an opinion not misconduct. If he is guilty then the same applies to most politicians of all parties who spin facts.

The £350 million per week claim does not recognise that some of that money comes back to the UK as a rebate. Boris will argue his point was that the rebate comes with strings attached and that having left the EU we can decide 100% how that money is spent.

Edited by Badger11 (29 May 2019 1.12pm)

Yes, I can't see this going anywhere. It seems like it's designed to damage his leadership chances.
I'm not saying it wasn't misleading, because it was, but as you say politicians routinely lie or exaggerate, and disown responsibility for what they've previously said, so it's not that out of the ordinary.

Edited by dollardays (29 May 2019 1.47pm)

 

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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 29 May 19 1.49pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

Yes, I can't see this going anywhere. It seems like it's designed to damage his leadership chances.
I'm not saying it wasn't misleading, because it was, but as you say politicians routinely lie or exaggerate, and disown responsibility for what they've previously said, so it's not that out of the ordinary.

Edited by dollardays (29 May 2019 1.47pm)

If this results in a conviction then Farage will be doing life in strangeways inside 6 months.

Joking aside if this makes politicians stop and think, for just 1 second, before spreading at best somewhat misleading and at worse totally false lies in terms of stats and figures, then it’s a good thing.

 


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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 29 May 19 1.52pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Yet Farmers in the South West voted for Brexit invery large numbers - mainly because they see this as an opportunity to escape from the rigidity of EU 'box ticking', as this article explains.....

[Link]

Think you need a subscription to the FT to access that link, Becky.

I think many farmers didn’t vote for a no deal exit, they voted for a managed exit.

The head of the national farmers union is very clear on her grave concerns about the disaster of a no deal exit for the entire industry.

 


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