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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 18 Jun 19 11.57pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Is she in the bank ?

A gentleman never reveals...

So na.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall Yesterday 9.37am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's a good question.....What were the figures?

But on principle no.....I think in the case of a national referendum MPs should be acting more as delegates.

However, obviously what the vote question is itself does matter..not all votes will have the question of leaving or remaining.....but in the case of a leave or remain vote, an MP should really be representing what the majority in their constituency thought.....if the vote was very close perhaps they have wiggle room but with a clear vote....not really.

The 'leave or remain' nature of the politician shouldn't matter.

Outside of the referendum 'leave or remain' vote I'd regard them as free of that commitment.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Jun 2019 7.09pm)

The day when our MPs are required to act as delegates on any issue, no matter whether there is an overwhelming referendum result involved, is the day British Parliamentary democracy dies.

MPs must always be free to act according to their conscience. If their conscience dictates that they respect a decision taken elsewhere sobeit. Indeed many have taken that decision but it should never become mandatory.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag Yesterday 10.12am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The day when our MPs are required to act as delegates on any issue, no matter whether there is an overwhelming referendum result involved, is the day British Parliamentary democracy dies.

MPs must always be free to act according to their conscience.

In the words on one particular Palace fan - cobblers

 

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View cpfc_chap's Profile cpfc_chap Flag koh samui Yesterday 12.19pm Send a Private Message to cpfc_chap Add cpfc_chap as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

There is no continuity of trade with a no deal exit. Thats kind of the point.

The lie is not about what we pay net into the EU per month. The trade benefits of EU membership are impossible to quantify and will only be truly appreciated once we have left the EU, if we ever get around to it.

The lie which dragged in a bunch of morons is that the entire saving (if it could even be quantified) would be automatically spent on the NHS, 100%. Such a simplistic and transparent lie but the brexit loving masses fell for it as they always do.

As Churchill once said:

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth puts on its boots".

But dont believe me on this enormous and misleading lie, listen to Nigel:

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BTW answering "yes" to the question "what happens to the monthly fee" is not too sound grammatically.

Typo was supposed to be 2 not 3

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall Yesterday 12.27pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

In the words on one particular Palace fan - cobblers

Then you, alongside most of the hard left, don't understand how our system of representative democracy really works.

The hard left think they send delegates to Parliament. Do you really want to be in that camp?

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag Yesterday 12.29pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle


The hard left think they send delegates to Parliament. Do you really want to be in that camp?

Yes

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England Yesterday 12.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Then you, alongside most of the hard left, don't understand how our system of representative democracy really works.

The hard left think they send delegates to Parliament. Do you really want to be in that camp?


This is in respect of the rare case of national referendums and not an everyday expectation.

Also, this is a principle, it isn't something someone should be forced into.

However, those who go against their constituency.....when it has given a clear vote...on a clear 'leave or remain' question, have a moral duty to represent that choice in parliament.

Otherwise there is no point and the will of the constituency isn't listened to.....and that isn't very democratic.

I think that Raab, Greive or whoever it is deserve criticism for that.....their positions as leavers or remainers would be more respected...not less.

The public pay their wages....you seem to think they have little responsibility to listen to them.

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