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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 19 9.55pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
You have a lot of faith in the wisdom of people doing a job for which the only qualification required is to be 18 years old. It's down to us to decide if their qualifications, experience, morality, past record and willingness to work hard meet our standards. If not, choose someone else.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 19 9.56pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Corbyn could have instructed on how his lot voted. Of course he couldn't. He has voted against the party whip countless times himself.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 19 10.03pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
But there is a deal, agreed with the EU. It's Parliament has not backed it - three times. I know and I wonder if they now regret it. It would not surprise me to see it put back on the table by Johnson with a small change of words here and there. Having lost his majority and dumped 21 MPs himself his reliance on the DUP is now meaningless. So he may well throw them under the bus and agree to a "backstop" arrangement in new clothes. There are rumours that discussions about this are underway between London and Dublin right now. He needs a "deal" or he is going to be toast very soon. His mind may well now be very focused.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 19 10.10pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
So what your saying is the representatives gave us a referendum so we could leave. They then voted for artical 50 in order to leave. Then block brexit every way they can. Edited by dannyboy1978 (07 Sep 2019 2.44pm) The called a referendum to quieten the eurosceptics and end the threat of Farage and UKIP. It went wrong. Nevertheless they tried to honour the commitment they had given to respect the result and worked to achieve an exit deal. No-one though anticipated the border problems in Ireland and the concerns that these might result in a return to violence. So far these have been a barrier to an agreement that no-one has found the solution to. Leaving without a formal agreement doesn't solve that problem. No-one voted to leave in a way that creates problems. Parliament is not trying to frustrate Brexit at all. It is trying to avoid a situation no-one voted for.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Sep 19 10.15pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
This is not rocket science, you do not take it off the table if you want to negotiate a good deal You do if you know it will harm your country, have no other viable alternatives ready and, if you don't take it off, it will happen by default. Playing bluff when everyone knows that you hold a weak hand is no way to win anything.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Sep 19 10.15pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Yep, stand firm Johnson and remake the Tories at the general election as the Brexit party and be done with these back stabbing fifth columnists once and for all. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Sep 2019 10.16pm)
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| Maine Eagle USA 07 Sep 19 10.15pm |
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Another one bites the dust over Boris Johnson, the career buffoon and liar, and Dominic Cummings, terminal c***, and their disastrous strategy or lack thereof. Anyone who thinks the conservative party is better off without seasoned, intelligent, reasonable, moderate thinkers like Ken Clarke, is a tit. [Tweet Link]
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| Stirlingsays 07 Sep 19 10.17pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Another one bites the dust over Boris Johnson, the career buffoon and liar, and Dominic Cummings, terminal c***, and their disastrous strategy or lack thereof. Anyone who thinks the conservative party is better off without seasoned, intelligent, reasonable, moderate thinkers like Ken Clarke, is a tit. [Tweet Link]
When we have an election I think we will see who the tit is.
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| Maine Eagle USA 07 Sep 19 10.18pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yep, stand firm Johnson and remake the Tories at the general election as the Brexit party and be done with these back stabbing fifth columnists once and for all. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Sep 2019 10.16pm) LMAO Stirley. Stand firm? On what? A platform of quicksand? He has nothing to stand on. His strategy has been exposed for the short sighted crap it was always going to be from such luminaries as Dominic Cummings. He is a lame duck PM who will be forced to either break the law or ask for an extension, over his own dead body in a ditch I assume.....or resign in disgrace and ignominy. Corbyn now holds all the cards, and he didnt even have to do anything. Johnson showing what a clown he is once again.
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| Maine Eagle USA 07 Sep 19 10.19pm |
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You mean when Jeremy Corbyn allows the tory party to have an election.....LMAO.
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| Stirlingsays 07 Sep 19 10.31pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
You mean when Jeremy Corbyn allows the tory party to have an election.....LMAO. If you think Corbyn holds all the cards then perhaps your knowledge of tits is still at the dummy stage.
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| Maine Eagle USA 07 Sep 19 10.39pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
If you think Corbyn holds all the cards then perhaps your knowledge of tits is still at the dummy stage. Oooh. Ouch, Stirley. Not your best work here. Weak, weak come back for you, Stirley. You dont have a leg to stand on here and you know it. In that regard you are in much the same bind as the PM. He cannot pass any legislation in the house, he has a negative majority. He cannot break the law, as the supreme court tends to side with "the law" in court cases. Therefore his "I would rather be dead in a ditch than ask for an extension" might well become "I would rather resign". He is legally mandated to ask for an extension now, and there will now NEVER be a no deal exit. It was always a Farage mirage....a unicorn pipe dream. It died yesterday when the lords passed the Benn bill. He is clearly not trying to get a deal, as he doesnt even have a negotiation team. All ministers who joined his government, believing he wanted a deal are now quitting. He is losing cabinet ministers left and right, over his lack of actual desire to get a deal, and his removing of the whip of over 20 career politicians, some of which gave several decades of their lives to support the conservative party, has basically alienated half the entire party, maybe more. He has ZERO plays left in his play book. What can he do now? Nothing. He can only sit and wait to be legally forced to seek an extension, and wait for Corbyn to decide when the election should be. He is f***ed.
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