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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 24 Sep 19 5.33pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

'I expect'. Also again with the word promise. How you can hate the establishment then buy their drivel hook line and sinker? Makes no sense. Also is that an admission that the leave campaign was run on, how shall we say, exaggerated or spurious claims for the sake of political ambition? If the answer is yes, then again, why are you surprised.

Public polls indicate that no-deal is not something favoured by the majority. The leave vote was split into several different camps over 'why'. So I have to disagree with the opening paragraph.

I'd take one that allows us to implement an Australian style immigration system and allows us to trade with countries outside of the EU. That does not have to be a No deal. This will mean we have worse deals in place with EU countries, which is a byproduct of leaving, but we'll just have to see what happens with that one.

I see no reason why it is impossible to get the above as a negotiated deal, to me it's people calling for no deal who seem to be the most negative and partisan and have given up on the powers of negotiating and waiting until the last minute, simply for the sake of rabid purpose.

It's about faith for these people now, not objectivity. Polarised debate creates religious attitudes and has done on both sides and I for one have no time for it. Just like religion.

Calling for a no deal and leaving it on the table are not the same thing.
Do not persist with this mealy mouthed two step if you really only seek to Revoke article 50.

 

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View Alex1991's Profile Alex1991 Flag Ashford 24 Sep 19 5.34pm Send a Private Message to Alex1991 Add Alex1991 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

There is an implication there that he might just not have tried to find out.

I have a meeting with my pharmacist in an hour's time so I will put the question to her and see what she says

If they were not expecting any disruption to the supply chain he could have said so. Doctor's are not usually vague when it comes to important questions.

 


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View Alex1991's Profile Alex1991 Flag Ashford 24 Sep 19 5.35pm Send a Private Message to Alex1991 Add Alex1991 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

The whole Brexit process has been grossly mismanaged which is why three years later we are in this mess.

We should have taken a harder line three years ago and said we are leaving on such and such a date and will pay whatever monies we are legally obliged to pay and then started discussing the future trading relationship which could well have been sorted by now

We can certainly agree on that.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 24 Sep 19 5.35pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Alex1991

These are not questions I asked him. I simply asked if it would still be available after October 31st and he told me he couldn't say. He could have said yes, he could have said no, but he told me he didn't know.

Edited by Alex1991 (24 Sep 2019 5.25pm)

Watch this:

[Link]

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 24 Sep 19 5.37pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Alex1991

EU Directive 2004/38/EC

“Where admission is permitted, an EU citizen may remain in the UK for up to three months from the date of entry, provided they do not become a burden on the social assistance system of the UK.

If an EU citizen does not meet one of the requirements for residence set out in the Directive [employed, self-employed, self-sufficient, student] then they will not have a right to reside in the UK and may be removed.”

The UK is free to implement this policy as it sees fit, and yet it does not, while other countries – including Belgium and Italy – use this legislation to repatriate thousands of EU migrants each year.

Did you quote that from memory?

Activist alert.

Sadly, this is not the whole truth is it?

 

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View Alex1991's Profile Alex1991 Flag Ashford 24 Sep 19 5.46pm Send a Private Message to Alex1991 Add Alex1991 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Did you quote that from memory?

Activist alert.

Sadly, this is not the whole truth is it?

Of course not, I knew it existed and copied the exact wording so you could read it.

What part of this is not the whole truth ? The facts are right there in front of you and you are still denying it ?

 


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View Alex1991's Profile Alex1991 Flag Ashford 24 Sep 19 5.53pm Send a Private Message to Alex1991 Add Alex1991 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Watch this:

[Link]

Not sure what you expect me to get from that. I trust neither of those men to give me better information about medicine than my GP. Of course we can make medicine here, but we currently import a huge amount of it.

Are you a regular watcher of RT and George Galloway ? And do you often take on board the words of Adam Garrie ?

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 24 Sep 19 5.54pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Alex1991

Of course not, I knew it existed and copied the exact wording so you could read it.

What part of this is not the whole truth ? The facts are right there in front of you and you are still denying it ?

I'm not quite sure what you believe the extract proves. To me it says that the UK can't control immigration from the EU, except in defined circumstances. Haven't you therefore confirmed the point Hrolf was making?

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 Sep 19 6.01pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by YT

I'm not quite sure what you believe the extract proves. To me it says that the UK can't control immigration from the EU, except in defined circumstances. Haven't you therefore confirmed the point Hrolf was making?

The UK doesn't control immigration from the EU because Mrs May as Home Secretary declined to enact EU directives which allowed her to do so.


 

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View Alex1991's Profile Alex1991 Flag Ashford 24 Sep 19 6.02pm Send a Private Message to Alex1991 Add Alex1991 as a friend

Originally posted by YT

I'm not quite sure what you believe the extract proves. To me it says that the UK can't control immigration from the EU, except in defined circumstances. Haven't you therefore confirmed the point Hrolf was making?

When I see people talk about controlled EU migration then my assumption is they want people who are working and contributing. If people are net contributors to the economy why wouldn't you want them to be here ?

Edited by Alex1991 (24 Sep 2019 6.04pm)

Edited by Alex1991 (24 Sep 2019 6.09pm)

 


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Originally posted by Alex1991

When I see people talk about controlled EU migration then my assumption is they want people who are working and contributing. If people are net contributors to the economy why wouldn't you want them to be here ?

Edited by Alex1991 (24 Sep 2019 6.04pm)

Edited by Alex1991 (24 Sep 2019 6.09pm)

Really? Three years after the vote you want to ask this?

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Really? Three years after the vote you want to ask this?

If people are still listing it as a reason the vote must be respected then yes.

 


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