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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 25 Jun 16 10.19am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Stop worrying about the future.

To borrow from Doctor Zaius,

We might have just saved it for you....

What proportion of 'might'?

This is exactly why we are where we are, people not worrying about the future. But then, some people have shorter futures than others.

 

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View Sportyteacher's Profile Sportyteacher Flag London 25 Jun 16 10.21am Send a Private Message to Sportyteacher Add Sportyteacher as a friend

Moodys has just downgraded UK Credit Outlook from 'stable' to 'negative':

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UK also has one of the largest budget deficits among advanced economies...thanks to Osborne's ceaseless borrowing to date.

 

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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 25 Jun 16 10.22am

Originally posted by nickgusset

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Meanwhile in Cornwall

An entirely misleading headline, surprise surprise.

There is no reason why the 10bn saving from leaving the EU cannot be issued even more efficiently than EU funding.

On a separate note which way did you vote Nick? Sorry I mean have you signed petition 131215 yet? You know a counter petition to 131215 is on the way.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jun 16 10.34am

Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

An entirely misleading headline, surprise surprise.

There is no reason why the 10bn saving from leaving the EU cannot be issued even more efficiently than EU funding.

On a separate note which way did you vote Nick? Sorry I mean have you signed petition 131215 yet? You know a counter petition to 131215 is on the way.


I stood in the booth deliberating for about 5 minutes... Voted remain in the hope that Corbyn would get elected and help build an anti austerity Base with our brothers and sisters across the EU. It was a hard choice but was worried about isolationism of the uk.
Was a choice between 2 right wing ideologies wasn't it?

Interesting times ahead. Need time for remainers to get over what happened then hopefully all pull together to build a UK (if it doesn't disintegrate with Sinn Fein pushing for a united Ireland as part of the EU and Scotland gaining independence) that isn't corporocentric (made up word of the day)

I'm hoping that the Spanish left win tomorrow and the European project fragments because of disaffection across Europe. This is the only chink of light I can see.
Otherwise we will be left to rue the Brexit.


Edited by nickgusset (25 Jun 2016 10.35am)

 

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View Ouzo Dan's Profile Ouzo Dan 25 Jun 16 10.36am Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

I am quite optimistic about the future, once we have negotiated our exit & we continue to have freedom of movement across Europe, businesses agree new trade deals etc & with no EU interference we can look into freedom of movement among the main players of the Commonwealth (something Boris has supported for years)

It could give us the best of both worlds.

minimum wages

NZ - $15.25
AUS - $17.29
Can - $10.50
UK - £7.20

Edited by Ouzo Dan (25 Jun 2016 10.39am)

 


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View Rubin's Profile Rubin Flag 25 Jun 16 10.38am Send a Private Message to Rubin Add Rubin as a friend

No one knows for sure what will happen long term. My guess is that we'll look at EU in 5/10/20 years and think 'thank God we got out when we did', and that's if there's even one left to look at.

I'm not sure why the kids are panicking so much about not being able to work in Europe in the future. I'd guess about 1% of them could work over there now due to the lack of jobs, and I think that'll only worsen. If they've got the skills to get a decent job out there, they'll get a work visa anyway.

The markets/pound etc were always going to get hit due to uncertainty, and they've had an extra impact from all the gambling that we'd remain. The effects have been no where near as bad as predicted.

We can now be a global country instead of just a European one, without any restrictions put on us.

Edited by Rubin (25 Jun 2016 10.40am)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Jun 16 10.43am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

What proportion of 'might'?

This is exactly why we are where we are, people not worrying about the future. But then, some people have shorter futures than others.

How old are you Mapletree? You carry on like a schoolboy.

I promise you that the Sun will still come up tomorrow.Try to put things into some sort of perspective and don't assume that you will live longer than me because judging by the way you worry about things I wouldn't be so sure. How's your blood pressure?

You clearly have had very little adversity in your life if you go into a tail spin so easily.

 

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 25 Jun 16 10.44am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

I still predict that, despite all the menacing words from Brussels (and I understand why they are saying what they are saying), a deal will be offered to Britain by he EU and we will have another referendum in a year or so to ratify that deal.

There is too much at stake for many of the players in this to allow Brexit and contagion to happen. This is completely unprecedented territory. Yes Greenland left he EU in the eighties but there is a World of difference between that and this situation.

I still view this as a massive protest vote. The devil will be in the detail and the strength of the negotiating team.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 25 Jun 16 10.45am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


I stood in the booth deliberating for about 5 minutes... Voted remain in the hope that Corbyn would get elected and help build an anti austerity Base with our brothers and sisters across the EU. It was a hard choice but was worried about isolationism of the uk.
Was a choice between 2 right wing ideologies wasn't it?

Interesting times ahead. Need time for remainers to get over what happened then hopefully all pull together to build a UK (if it doesn't disintegrate with Sinn Fein pushing for a united Ireland as part of the EU and Scotland gaining independence) that isn't corporocentric (made up word of the day)

I'm hoping that the Spanish left win tomorrow and the European project fragments because of disaffection across Europe. This is the only chink of light I can see.
Otherwise we will be left to rue the Brexit.


Edited by nickgusset (25 Jun 2016 10.35am)

Next you will tell us that you are going to write a musical about it.

 

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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 25 Jun 16 10.49am

Originally posted by Rubin

No one knows for sure what will happen long term. My guess is that we'll look at EU in 5/10/20 years and think 'thank God we got out when we did', and that's if there's even one left to look at.

I'm not sure why the kids are panicking so much about not being able to work in Europe in the future. I'd guess about 1% of them could work over there now due to the lack of jobs, and I think that'll only worsen. If they've got the skills to get a decent job out there, they'll get a work visa anyway.

The markets/pound etc were always going to get hit due to uncertainty, and they've had an extra impact from all the gambling that we'd remain. The effects have been no where near as bad as predicted.

We can now be a global country instead of just a European one, without any restrictions put on us.

Edited by Rubin (25 Jun 2016 10.40am)

To be fair, no one knew when we were in the EU what would happen with our financial future. The good news is we are in charge now, well in two years we will be.
It's going to be fine, no sorry not fine, is going to great and can concentrate on our own affairs. Would love to see a swiss model in the UK where the politicians are accountable to the common people.

 


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View turkish eagle's Profile turkish eagle Flag 25 Jun 16 10.51am Send a Private Message to turkish eagle Add turkish eagle as a friend

It's not the end of the world.

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View snytaxx's Profile snytaxx Flag London 25 Jun 16 10.55am Send a Private Message to snytaxx Add snytaxx as a friend

Originally posted by crystal balls

FTSE 100 consists mainly of multi-national companies who are largely immune from UK domestic conditions. FTSE 250 is a better indicator of UK conditions, and that fell by 7.2% yesterday, worst fall since Black Friday. Recession later this year almost inevitable, and 4-5 years of uncertainty yet to feed in to the markets fully.

Who knows what will happen in 5 years time. I feel that economically we'll be ok eventually, but we're in for a major bumpy ride meanwhile, and anyone retiring in the next few years or looking to borrow money may rue the outcome of the referendum.

There were the people who primarily voted for Brexit through I think you will find. Yes its possible that they are wrong and its all one big mistake, however people do tend to lookout for their own interests while voting. I suspect many people in that age group were reasonably confident about the effects on their retirement.

 

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