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View Rubin's Profile Rubin Flag 25 Jun 16 3.23pm Send a Private Message to Rubin Add Rubin as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

It is my kids that are frightening me Hoof, I don't think you are keeping up. I am listening to them, it's a shame more people don't do that.

Lucky old you, you bought a house when is was worth 1/21st of the current value. You won't find many 23 year olds now that will be able to buy a house, and fewer in the future.

You seem to imply that EU immigration is the major driver for house price inflation which of course is completely wrong. Migration is to blame but that is complex. London's economic growth has been greater than the rest of the country, reductionism won't cut it with me although of course I am only a student and not a master.

Edited by Mapletree (25 Jun 2016 2.55pm)

Could you even begin to imagine a world where everything was decided and dictated by 17 year olds?

Please remember that it's likely they've just come through an education system where they will have been taught that the EU is purely a positive thing. That doesn't mean they're right.

Do you not think that leaving the EU is the best way to make purchasing a property affordable again? If not, can you suggest how prices would have ever been brought down if we'd carry on the way we were?

I think your kids will be very happy with the decision that's been made in the future. I decided to vote leave for the sake of my six month year old.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 25 Jun 16 3.38pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Rubin

Could you even begin to imagine a world where everything was decided and dictated by 17 year olds?

Please remember that it's likely they've just come through an education system where they will have been taught that the EU is purely a positive thing. That doesn't mean they're right.

Do you not think that leaving the EU is the best way to make purchasing a property affordable again? If not, can you suggest how prices would have ever been brought down if we'd carry on the way we were?

I think your kids will be very happy with the decision that's been made in the future. I decided to vote leave for the sake of my six month year old.

17 year olds have the happy knack of asking questions Rubin. They have a right to their views, which are often well informed. Social media can help this, albeit needs to be treated with caution.

But only one of my children is 17. If you read my thread I spoke of my children not just one child.

The reasons for the high price of property are multiple but not especially driven by EU immigration. There is, for example, an enormous bank of unused building land in London that is being stockpiled by speculators. There has also been speculation, mainly by Russian and Middle Eastern buyers, on houses themselves. And London has 10 times as many job vacancies as the other large cities in the UK, drawing people to it.

My children will not be happy with the decision that has been taken, of that both they and I are quite sure. Let's hope we can keep the damage to the minimum.

 

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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 25 Jun 16 3.46pm

40 odd years ago all the old people voted for us to go in the crappy EU. Were the youth complaining then?

Edited by DivingIsNotGood (25 Jun 2016 4.11pm)

 


VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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View nhp61's Profile nhp61 Flag Goring-By-Sea born, now in Brackne... 25 Jun 16 3.46pm Send a Private Message to nhp61 Add nhp61 as a friend

Originally posted by blackpalacefan

Youre right of course else what is the point of the vote to begin with. lets not forget though that when the vote looked not to be going his way Mr Farage was already talking of a possible second referendum if the result was close, so its a quite natural response when people narrowly miss out of getting their own way.

Edited by blackpalacefan (25 Jun 2016 3.14pm)

Over a million have signed an online petition calling for a second referendum. That might be EU style democracy, when they were ordering Ireland to revote because the first result of their referendum was not to their liking, but it won't happen here.

The Remainers lost, by over 1.2 million votes, and they will have to accept that. Being made to hold a rerun is just not democratic, and would cause even more uncertainty. What if a second referendum still ends up with Leave in the majority, will the Remain camp demand yet even more referendums until they get result they want? No chance.

Likewise, if the Remainers had won, Farage would just have had to take it on the chin, and accept the people had chosen, and not demand a rerun.

 

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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 25 Jun 16 3.47pm Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Had the margin between leave and remain votes been wider I think people would have taken it with better grace.

It's a shame that some leavers and remainers could have been more magnanimous.

As it is I think we need to wait a few more days before people calm down a bit.

Not a chance fix, the establishment wouldn't let it happen, MI5 and god knows how many other theories That were on here BEFORE the vote

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jun 16 3.51pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

What does that mean? That I must change my view to match to the majority? I don't blame most people for their views, I simply don't share them. I do think some people hold their views for selfish reasons however.

Not at all. It wasn't aimed at you specifically and I can understand the anger felt.Perhaps it was aimed at those who made ha ha you lost type comments.

But the fact is the decision is made and we need to look for ways to move forward, not just to heal the rift that's divided the country but get rid of the ones that caused this disaster in the first place. Let's get our country back from those who have caused the despair and discontent among British citizens.

 

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View Rubin's Profile Rubin Flag 25 Jun 16 3.55pm Send a Private Message to Rubin Add Rubin as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

17 year olds have the happy knack of asking questions Rubin. They have a right to their views, which are often well informed. Social media can help this, albeit needs to be treated with caution.

But only one of my children is 17. If you read my thread I spoke of my children not just one child.

The reasons for the high price of property are multiple but not especially driven by EU immigration. There is, for example, an enormous bank of unused building land in London that is being stockpiled by speculators. There has also been speculation, mainly by Russian and Middle Eastern buyers, on houses themselves. And London has 10 times as many job vacancies as the other large cities in the UK, drawing people to it.

My children will not be happy with the decision that has been taken, of that both they and I are quite sure. Let's hope we can keep the damage to the minimum.

We'll have to agree to disagree there, but I think your children and grandchildren will be pleasantly surprised.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 25 Jun 16 3.59pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Eggy

This - not a good day for our children who will have to live the rest of their lives with the consequences of this decision.

Melodramatic again.

Do you really think the economy and job market is knackered for the next 50 years? Pfffft.

 


COYP

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View blackpalacefan's Profile blackpalacefan Flag 25 Jun 16 4.00pm Send a Private Message to blackpalacefan Add blackpalacefan as a friend

Originally posted by nhp61

Over a million have signed an online petition calling for a second referendum. That might be EU style democracy, when they were ordering Ireland to revote because the first result of their referendum was not to their liking, but it won't happen here.

The Remainers lost, by over 1.2 million votes, and they will have to accept that. Being made to hold a rerun is just not democratic, and would cause even more uncertainty. What if a second referendum still ends up with Leave in the majority, will the Remain camp demand yet even more referendums until they get result they want? No chance.

Likewise, if the Remainers had won, Farage would just have had to take it on the chin, and accept the people had chosen, and not demand a rerun.

I certainly do agree that the result should stand, as i said whats the point of the vote overwise. What I said is also fact though. When Farage thought he'd lost he indicated that they would push for a second referendum if the result was without a few percentage points. I'm not saying that should happen then or now, just what his intention was.

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 25 Jun 16 4.01pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Remember that time Nigel Farage said 52%-48% split should lead to second referendum?

Calling a small defeat for his leave camp ‘unfinished business’, he predicted a second referendum on Europe.

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Big chest and massive boobs

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 25 Jun 16 4.04pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Eggy


I agree, but at this moment there appear to be few positives to the overall outcome. Overnight the opportunity for our children to freely travel, work and even live in 27 countries in the future has been removed, based on what, broken promises already about additional NHS funding, and unspecified immigration limits and controls?

The world will keep spinning, and in a few days I'm sure 'normal' life will return and we will face into the challenges ahead and make the best of it, and I sincerely hope my current concerns and reservations are proved wrong. However, it's not going to happen overnight as a lot of people seem to think, and it could be at least 10 years before we can really judge if this was the right decision for the UK, and Europe.

Please let the season start soon so we've all got something to really moan and worry about &#128521;&#128521;&#128516;

Did you have a problem going on holiday before EU membership? I didn't. British passports used to get you through nice and quickly. And you could get visas to work abroad as well. Most of these people crying about never being able to work abroad never intend to anyway. The ones who do will find work before going and gain visa entry.

We really have created a generation of limp wristed f&nnies who incidentally can't see past a year or 2.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (25 Jun 2016 5.34pm)

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jun 16 4.07pm


Mail readers complaining that the mail start giving real facts about Brexit post referendum...

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