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 tome  Inner Tantalus Time. 14 Jan 17 6.35pm |
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Originally posted by Sedlescombe
It certainly is if they are paying taxes On which note what do you make of the intervention of the Dutch Deputy Prime Minister suggesting they will veto a Brexit agreement which allows the UK to be a low-tax venue for corporations and the mega-rich? Seems to be something which both sides agree is a problem - the elites playing states off against each other and stuffing the workers. Some reasonable views on migration too.
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steeleye20  Croydon 14 Jan 17 6.45pm |
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Originally posted by tome
On which note what do you make of the intervention of the Dutch Deputy Prime Minister suggesting they will veto a Brexit agreement which allows the UK to be a low-tax venue for corporations and the mega-rich? Seems to be something which both sides agree is a problem - the elites playing states off against each other and stuffing the workers. Some reasonable views on migration too. Wonder what the other 26 countries will be vetoing brexit over.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 14 Jan 17 7.24pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
It wouldn't be any higher as these rises have nothing to do with Brexit and everything to do with the “bailouts” and quantitative easing projects, a never-ending river of currency created (out of thin air) and pumped into companies for near zero interest. Some banks received 'bailouts' and they have been among the worst performing FTSE sectors. The best performing sector in the FTSE during the last year has been the mining sector and they received no 'bailouts'.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 14 Jan 17 7.57pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Some banks received 'bailouts' and they have been among the worst performing FTSE sectors. The best performing sector in the FTSE during the last year has been the mining sector and they received no 'bailouts'. I am not a 'corbynista' but IMO a private company is precisely that and we should end all handouts whether by taxation or subsidies that they receive. They should be contributing to society not the other way round. I'll lie down for a while phew!
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| .TUX. 14 Jan 17 8.24pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Some banks received 'bailouts' and they have been among the worst performing FTSE sectors. The best performing sector in the FTSE during the last year has been the mining sector and they received no 'bailouts'. I know You've obviously done some homework, well done (i honestly mean that). Do some more, delve a bit deeper, and you'll learn that the FTSE isn't really the be all and end all bud.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 14 Jan 17 8.31pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I am not a 'corbynista' but IMO a private company is precisely that and we should end all handouts whether by taxation or subsidies that they receive. They should be contributing to society not the other way round. I'll lie down for a while phew! I more or less agree with you on that. However, I think the Labour government under Brown had no option but to bail the failing banks out in an unprecedented situation. Otherwise they risked an economic meltdown with mass-bankruptcies of companies and individuals and mass-unemployment that would have seriously threatened the social stability of the country. Edited by hedgehog50 (14 Jan 2017 8.34pm)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Jan 17 8.33pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
I more or less agree with you on that. However, I think the Labour government under Brown had no option but to bail the failing banks out in an unprecedented situation. Otherwise they risked an economic meltdown with mass-unemployment that would have seriously threatened the social stability of the country.
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| .TUX. 14 Jan 17 8.42pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
I more or less agree with you on that. However, I think the Labour government under Brown had no option but to bail the failing banks out in an unprecedented situation. Otherwise they risked an economic meltdown with mass-bankruptcies of companies and individuals and mass-unemployment that would have seriously threatened the social stability of the country. Edited by hedgehog50 (14 Jan 2017 8.34pm) You need to listen to Jim Grant and his take on the recession, early 1920's, that cured itself with no Central bank influence. Edit: It puts the constant bailing out of the banksters (that WE pay for) into perspective. Edited by .TUX. (14 Jan 2017 8.50pm)
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| davenotamonkey 14 Jan 17 11.20pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Wonder what the other 26 countries will be vetoing brexit over. No country has a "veto" on Brexit. They don't even have a "veto" on the Article 50 withdrawal agreement. It is subject to qualified majority voting.
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| davenotamonkey 14 Jan 17 11.29pm |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
No country has a "veto" on Brexit. They don't even have a "veto" on the Article 50 withdrawal agreement. It is subject to qualified majority voting. ...and incidentally: The vision of a low-tax Britain that enforces fewer regulations in terms of workers’ rights on businesses has been a motivating force for a number of high profile Brexit supporters. What utter tosh. Because "low-tax" is synonymous with "fewer workers rights"? Jesus, the quality of Graun editorial just keeps plunging. You can see the bearded sandal-wearers spitting out their granola in outrage, as they tenuously try to make the link themselves, their neurons weakly sputtering to life in the left-side of their skulls. Skim down, and you can really hit Graun-bingo: "xenophobia", "Corbyn", "LGBT" among other gems. Pathetic.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 Jan 17 12.44am |
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Originally posted by davenotamonkey
...and incidentally: The vision of a low-tax Britain that enforces fewer regulations in terms of workers’ rights on businesses has been a motivating force for a number of high profile Brexit supporters. What utter tosh. Because "low-tax" is synonymous with "fewer workers rights"? Jesus, the quality of Graun editorial just keeps plunging. You can see the bearded sandal-wearers spitting out their granola in outrage, as they tenuously try to make the link themselves, their neurons weakly sputtering to life in the left-side of their skulls. Skim down, and you can really hit Graun-bingo: "xenophobia", "Corbyn", "LGBT" among other gems. Pathetic.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 15 Jan 17 9.07am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Anyone who believes that there will be much employment around to have rights about under a Corbyn government shouldn't bother to do the Lottery as the currency will be pretty worthless too.
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