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View legaleagle's Profile legaleagle Flag 17 Feb 17 10.43pm Send a Private Message to legaleagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add legaleagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez


You sound like a sore loser Legal, get over it!!

Not at all actually,Jim old chap.Just despairing at some people's hypocrisy and blinkered natures.

Btw,was in your neck of the woods earlier this week..the only one acting like a sore loser seems to be the one who won!

 

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Slight niggle 17 Feb 17 10.48pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

No.

The point is that those who rant about politicians who query Brexit being "undemocratic" are spouting IMHO simplistic bilge,fuelled by pure bias against anyone they don't agree with.

There is nothing wrong in carrying on perfectly legally campaigning against a principle you are against after a referendum went against you for something contrary to the outcome of a referendum (or more pertinently a particular option in accord with the very general outcome of a referendum).To suggest otherwise is itself "undemocratic".


Your hero Farage stated he would do so if his side lost the referendum.You had no problem with that all all (rightly actually)But you only mouth off about pro EU people,never him.Its called blind bias and lack of a principled approach.

Referendums are advisory not mandatory...may be a drag for you when you are against a particular policy (though no doubt you'd answer the opposite if you were against a referendum outcome)...its part of our British "heritage" and "constitution"...that thing you guys are meant to consider of overriding importance to prevail (when it suits you).Referendums having their origin in non UK continental Europe!

Let's look at some past referendums: 1975 on Common Market: Did the anti EU campaigners then call a halt to their campaigns? Did they hell.Should they have?No

Referendum on changing the electoral system.Undemocratic for people to carry on still campaigning for a different system.Come off it guvnor,you are having a larf!

Referendum in Scotland:undemocratic for Nationalists to now campaign for independence.Only if you are not a democrat.

Referendum in Australia to get rid of the monarchy.Undemocratic to still campaign fore a republic? Only to an inherently undemocratic person.

Matthimself: would he have stopped campaigning on HOL for the UK to exit the EU had the referendum been lost? I humbly think not (and fair enough,after all the essence of a democracy is free speech and the right to campaign legally for what you believe in).

No?

Edited by legaleagle (17 Feb 2017 10.34pm)

One cannot feel that one has got at you, no?

I can tell you that on the evening of June 23, I went to bed thinking that the UK had voted to stay in the EU. I genuinely accepted that result that day. However, my 'bluds' did me proud and we won. Common sense overrode liberal bellendness. It was a peculiar sensation.

Therefore, I am genuinely at odds to tell &#375;ou what I would have thought on June 24 if things had gone the way i thought it would. Would I of respected the democratic path, of course.

Democracy is more important than me.

 


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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 17 Feb 17 10.53pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

Not at all actually,Jim old chap.Just despairing at some people's hypocrisy and blinkered natures.

Btw,was in your neck of the woods earlier this week..the only one acting like a sore loser seems to be the one who won!

You were in Balham?

 


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View nickgusset's Profile nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 17 Feb 17 10.57pm Send a Private Message to nickgusset Add nickgusset as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Are you serious?

We need to do the right thing for our own citizens. Something that is alien to you lefties I appreciate.

And exactly how was Thatcher worse than Blair?

She helped rejuvenate this country from the decaying, backward, unproductive, striker ridden disaster it was in the 70's, won a victory against an aggressor in the Falklands and was a key player in winning the cold war to boot.

Blair resigned after pissing loads of money up the wall with little to show for it and got us into an illegal war along with his chum W.


Oh Behave.

I don't exactly see how the cureent and last lot have done anything for citizens.

 


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View legaleagle's Profile legaleagle Flag 17 Feb 17 11.04pm Send a Private Message to legaleagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add legaleagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

You were in Balham?


Reminds me of when I hitch hiked up the W coast of the US to Vancouver.I got a ride from the Canadian border and the person said they would drop me off about an hour from Vancouver and I could get a bus from there...so,I get out,maybe 11 at night,find a local and say "what's the name of this place?".

"Thornton Heath" came the answer!

 

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Slight niggle 22 Feb 17 7.54am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add matt_himself as a friend

Record budget surplus. Weren't we supposed to plunge into an apocalyptic recession after a 'leave' vote?

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Remember Mark Carney's and the CBI's predictions of doom prior to the vote? And it is the Leave campaign whom are accused of producing lies.

 


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From the above link...


But the figures still mean that the overall debt is growing. It climbed 92bn to 1.68tr, equivalent to 85.3% of the UK's gross domestic product.

The independent Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) will deliver updated public finance targets at the time of Mr Hammond's first Budget in a couple of weeks.

Its latest target for 2016-17 borrowing of 68bn is bigger than the 55bn predicted prior to the EU referendum.

 


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View Mr_Gristle's Profile Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 22 Feb 17 12.29pm Send a Private Message to Mr_Gristle Add Mr_Gristle as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

From the above link...


But the figures still mean that the overall debt is growing. It climbed 92bn to 1.68tr, equivalent to 85.3% of the UK's gross domestic product.

The independent Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) will deliver updated public finance targets at the time of Mr Hammond's first Budget in a couple of weeks.

Its latest target for 2016-17 borrowing of 68bn is bigger than the 55bn predicted prior to the EU referendum.

Ouch. Remind me someone (anyone) why we're having to borrow ever more despite ever decreasing public spending and "austerity"?

However Nick, don't dirty yourself again by even hinting at absolving Blair the Venal of anything. The man is filth of the highest possible order.

Edited by Mr_Gristle (22 Feb 2017 12.29pm)

 


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Net migration to Britain fell by 49,000 to 273,000 in the immediate aftermath of the Brexit vote, partly fuelled by 12,000 more Poles and other east Europeans going home, according to official figures.

Question to 'out' voters who had concerns about migration - is this what you voted for? That's not a loaded question, genuinely interested if this is one of the things that you hoped would be a result of Brexit. I appreciate that this is 'organic' reduction in migration rather than govt sanctioned but the numbers have gone down regardless.

 

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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Ouch. Remind me someone (anyone) why we're having to borrow ever more despite ever decreasing public spending and "austerity"?

However Nick, don't dirty yourself again by even hinting at absolving Blair the Venal of anything. The man is filth of the highest possible order.

Edited by Mr_Gristle (22 Feb 2017 12.29pm)

Because every extra pound that we pump into the system dilutes the 'value' of those pounds that already exist.
This is the problem with 'fiat' currencies, they are backed by nothing and have no real value.


Edited by .TUX. (23 Feb 2017 10.43am)

 


It's getting closer. Gold, Silver & Bitcoin set to fly.

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