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legaleagle  21 Jul 17 10.52pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Anyone who exchanges currency at airports are either stupid ....or stupid. Elgrande,we are in agreement!
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 SwalecliffeEagle Swalecliffe 21 Jul 17 11.54pm |
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As a leaver/realist I have no issue whatosever with paying the EU as much money as they demand. After all, I can clearly recall the remain campaign wittering on about how 'we get out more than we put in'. So, if we were to put in 100bn I'd expect a handsome return. Or could it just be that the super-supranationalists told porkies too? Either that or they're so thick they can't see the gravy for the train. Edited by SwalecliffeEagle (21 Jul 2017 11.55pm)
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Kermit8  Hevon 22 Jul 17 12.17am |
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Originally posted by SwalecliffeEagle
As a leaver/realist I have no issue whatosever with paying the EU as much money as they demand. After all, I can clearly recall the remain campaign wittering on about how 'we get out more than we put in'. So, if we were to put in 100bn I'd expect a handsome return. Or could it just be that the super-supranationalists told porkies too? Either that or they're so thick they can't see the gravy for the train. Edited by SwalecliffeEagle (21 Jul 2017 11.55pm) If we had voted remain then yes. But, as it stands, we are obliged to pay our contracted dues but on exiting will not be eligible for the benefits commensurate with them as only members of the EU are. It is basically a divorce bill which we will have brought on ourselves so no point in disputing the final figure agreed and blaming the EU for it. It will be what we owe. I'm going for £55billion.
Not sure the monster raving Right will be happy with that. So that's better news then. Edited by Kermit8 (22 Jul 2017 12.21am)
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| matt_himself Matataland 22 Jul 17 6.32am |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
Mr Uphimself,I will leave fantasies (whether political,economic or inter-personal)firmly as your unrivalled area of masterly expertise. You errr...I suggested no such "softening" thing ... Brexit will indeed be a massive negative IMHO (unless ameliorated in the form of what looks increasingly likely as reality dawns on all but the extreme tunnel visioned(ie EEA membership..which is more or less the same as EU membership but without a seat at the table,so way worse still than now) or a drawn out transition until we end up never leaving.... A part of such massive negative would IMHO be reflected in a drain away from London as a global centre for insurance and banking...hence even the author your own chosen article is aware that the mid term employment picture in the City may be somewhat less than rosy. Rumpole, we have seen language soften from the City leaving enmasse to the present situation of Brexit 'might' cause job losses. Could it be because the theories on the Remain side about the effects of Brexit are just that, theories?
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| matt_himself Matataland 22 Jul 17 6.39am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
If we had voted remain then yes. But, as it stands, we are obliged to pay our contracted dues but on exiting will not be eligible for the benefits commensurate with them as only members of the EU are. It is basically a divorce bill which we will have brought on ourselves so no point in disputing the final figure agreed and blaming the EU for it. It will be what we owe. I'm going for £55billion.
Not sure the monster raving Right will be happy with that. So that's better news then. Edited by Kermit8 (22 Jul 2017 12.21am) You live in a warped reality. Of course we must dispute the final Brexit bill, we have assets in the EU and any divorce settlement is contested. But the major point is that, just like you and your £55bn figure, any settlement amount is pulled out of the arse of the EU as a 'threat' to the UK. The fact that over the last week David Davis asked very detailed questions about the divorce settlement and got little back from Brussels says it all. They are fanciful numbers, Your fascist outlook is hardening. You are advocating accepting everything an unelected group tells our government to do. If that ain't fascism, I don't know what is.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 22 Jul 17 8.41am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
You live in a warped reality. Of course we must dispute the final Brexit bill, we have assets in the EU and any divorce settlement is contested. But the major point is that, just like you and your £55bn figure, any settlement amount is pulled out of the arse of the EU as a 'threat' to the UK. The fact that over the last week David Davis asked very detailed questions about the divorce settlement and got little back from Brussels says it all. They are fanciful numbers, Your fascist outlook is hardening. You are advocating accepting everything an unelected group tells our government to do. If that ain't fascism, I don't know what is. The 'agreed bill' I said. By both sides. So disputes over. Cheque in the post. And what if it is around £50bill? Or £20bill or £70bill. We will still have to pay. Gove's Pragmatic Brexit must be putting you off your breakfast. Too sensible to swallow compared to your self-destructive 'clean break' wish?
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 22 Jul 17 9.57am |
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Pay what we are definitively legally obliged to and get away from the appalling 'superstate' as soon as possible.
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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europalace  Europe 22 Jul 17 10.04am |
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"Bank of America picks Dublin for EU hub" "Citigroup has picked Frankfurt as the base for its EU trading operations, and reports say Morgan Stanley has also chosen the German financial centre."
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 22 Jul 17 11.08am |
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Originally posted by europalace
"Bank of America picks Dublin for EU hub" "Citigroup has picked Frankfurt as the base for its EU trading operations, and reports say Morgan Stanley has also chosen the German financial centre." Nothing to do with low corporation tax and fears of a Peoples' Republic of Britain under Corbyn then.
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| matt_himself Matataland 22 Jul 17 11.55am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The 'agreed bill' I said. By both sides. So disputes over. Cheque in the post. And what if it is around £50bill? Or £20bill or £70bill. We will still have to pay. Gove's Pragmatic Brexit must be putting you off your breakfast. Too sensible to swallow compared to your self-destructive 'clean break' wish? I have said previously, something you have ignored because of your Fascist outlook, is that I have said the two year period was too short. I have said that a transition deal was the only practical manner in which I could see a clean break happening. With regards the 'agreed bill' that's not what was coming over from you. You view the divorce payment as some sort of sop we have to give to Brussels for having the temerity to use democracy in a way that damages the EU.
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| matt_himself Matataland 22 Jul 17 11.57am |
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Interesting developments in Poland: Could they be stripped of EU voting rights for wanting judicial independence? Could the whole house of cards come tumbling down?
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| Rubin 22 Jul 17 12.41pm |
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Interesting comments from a German MEP:
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