People keep saying that but what makes it the poorest quality? The fact that the same 4/5 teams aren't getting their own way?

Just because no one is running away with it doesn't make it poor. I would argue it is the fact that more teams have improved, both tactically and with personnel. The PL has never been the bastion of suiblime football that Sky & TalkSport will have you believe. If it was PL clubs would have had more success in europe

It's a good argument. I guess a couple of things for me. Firstly that no one is consistent, but you're right in your argument that it could well be because the supposed "lesser" teams have upped their game rather than vice versa. But secondly, having sat on my sofa and watched a lot of games (not just ours), the standard of football doesn't seem as high. But I take your point, that perception could just be because it's been planted in my mind that it's not as good.

One thing that does stick in my mind a bit is that in the last two seasons there have been teams that have truly dominated Palace. This season I don't think many teams have, and I don't believe it's because we're significantly better.

Newcastle's forum is a cracking read at the moment, in particular their Player Ratings thread.

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This one in particular had me in stitches:

Taylor - 0 f***ing hell. Last time I ever want to see him play for us. Shocking. Simpsonesque levels of dropping off, no balls to make a challenge and his constant finger pointing infuriates me. I feel like the only reason he does it to try to take the heat off his own s*** performance by berating others. Is that irrational? Probably. **** him. His attempt at defending for their first goal has to be up there with the s***test things I have ever seen in my life in any regard, not just football. I honestly could have played better than him today and I am a terrible footballer.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Odds on going down as now as follows.

Toon: between 9/1 on and 20/1 on
Mackems: everywhere about 4/1 on
Norwich: pretty much 2/1 against
Palace: between 100/1 and 200/1 against
Watford and Swansea still considered by some bookies

Yet 22% of Toon fans are still deluded enough to think they're staying up. Most of them at least realise that if the Canaries turn them over then they're goosed (that would probably be curtains for Sunderland too).

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it's been a revolutionary season, quality wise poor, yes but who remembers when the top 4 was a closed shop, clubs would settle for 4th bottom before the season starts and clubs like Wolves would play their reserve side and more or less concede the points when playing Man Utd, no one wants to see that

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Got to be honest I put £20 on palace to be relegated at 23/1 a few weeks ago, I thought a sweetener of £400+ would help me through the hurt, but would be much happier losing my £20 coyp