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Hopkiiiin looking to curl onNNNE

That's not true, did you not see this last week?:

"The Muslim Council has written to every mosque in the country asking imams to "exercise vigilance".
Sermons are to be preached at Friday prayers condemning terrorism as an affront to Islam.
Hundreds of thousands of special booklets are also to be distributed to worshippers to reinforce the anti-extremist message.

Within hours of the raids yesterday, police were meeting community leader to reassure them that they were targeting suspected terrorists, not British Muslims as a whole."

I have a strong love for my country, and I am a Christian not a Muslim, but I believe that diversity should be a positive thing.
I do kind of understand where some people are coming from, and yes I agree that anyone who so openly is against our country should not be allowed to stay, but most Muslims hate Abu Hamzaar as much as most non-Muslims.
Unfortunately extremists and fundamentalists exist from all religions, or anyone who holds strong beliefs. But hate against hate is not the way to deal with this.

Ok this has f***ed me off long enough.
Why does everything have to get on Blairs back, who stood up to those French and German government scum.Who is trying to lend help to Libya?
Just because he is surrounded by a bunch of complete and utter nobs doesnt mean that he should go, hes had a s*** year so why dont you just f***ing let him go.
I agree that there has to be a real shift in government personnel but Blair should not go.
And anyway who could take over from him?Michael Howard-Charles Kennedy your having a f***ing laugh.

rant over, back to dinner

This isn't saying anything new. Any moslem who professes any knowledge of the koran would know all this already. This hasn't stopped their vile behaviour in the past, nor will it prevent their vile behaviour in the future. Until there is a conscious effort on the part of the moslems in the UK to condemn violence, actively assist the authorities in bringing the scum they're hiding to justice and embrace the customs and traditions of the country that's been good enough to take them in, they are all suspect. I don't see extremist Christianity in this country, nor do I see any open demonstrations by the indigenous white population about their foul habits in matters such as animal slaughter etc. Diversity is not a positive thing when it allows their inherently anti-British activities to flourish. If you can't see that this is an evil in our midst, I can recommend a good optician.

Edited by Cucking Funt (05 Apr 2004 10:45pm)

If you think that this will make one iota of difference, then I really can't say anything else. All this stuff that they've come out with is old hat. It's in the koran already, and that's been around for 1500-odd years. If their'holy' book expressly forbids them to do the things they do, why do you think a few bearded tw*ts in their mosques are going to make a difference?

I thought we'd done this topic to death several times over, but it's here again. That alone indicates the depth of feeling this issue has raised among HOL members.

I await a pillorying but I can understand where Stevemac is coming from. I think that the point he makes is valid for two reasons:
1. He is correct to react to the nearly fascist posts made by SE19 and others (don't mean to pick on you, SE19, but your Hitler rant did stand out). It's unbelievable to see posts like these - only 65 years ago this country was leading the world to war against an evil man and his thugs with exactly these views. They were as misguided then as they are now.

2. It is unbelievable that so many people here are tarring all Muslims with the same brush - it's akin to calling EVERY policeman racist or EVERY football fan a hooligan. Do people really believe that every Muslim-born person (no matter whether openly practicing his religion or not) is inherently evil? Get out of here!

I have said before that I believe anyone found guilty of inciting racial hatred should be harshly dealt with, and if they have sought asylum in this country then they should be deported immediately. I agree with the likes of Cucking that the majority of law-abiding Muslims could do more to help themselves (in British eyes) by shopping these zealots, but I am sure that a lot of them are afraid to do so.

(The idea of Muslims shopping the zealots has an interesting counterpoint on these boards, where a lot of people have suggested ignoring Palace hooligans causing trouble after games, and shopping them would be "grassing". But I digress!)

There are evil people in all cultures and all religions everywhere in the world. You need look no further than Northern Ireland to see examples of Christians, both Catholic and Protestant, using their faith as an excuse for terror, racism and violence.

By all means, let's get rid of the troublesome w@nkers like Abu Hamza who cause hatred and promote terorism and violence, but let's leave the decent, law-abiding ones alone.

Goodness is what you do. Not who you pray to.