Problem, is that sounds like every statement put out by family and friends, of people who are then found guilty.

Its hardly a witch hunt high media case, the news coverage is fairly minimal. As far as damage done - has it really done any damage - Fans seem to assume him innocent.

In fact a lot of the stories seem to be about Cliff Richard proclaiming his innocence and how the case is affecting him - and not coming from the victims or the police.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Given the other names on the Elm Guest House list apart from Richards (inc Brittens) there is not a snowball in hells chance he would / will ever be found guilty.

The implications across the corporate, judicial, political, showbiz and ruling elite should allegations against any one of them be proven are catastrophic for all of them . Huge huge can of worms.

Britten killed one police investigation. Hague another and acres of evidence from those investigations has been 'lost' whilst Straw sat on his hands....despite the best efforts of some in the Met to investigate this properly they aren't being allowed to...which is why I suspect they tried to force hands making the swoop on Kitty so public..

Edited by The Sash (29 Apr 2016 2.05pm)

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Yes danny.....

Vaibow also likes tall speakers, small speakers.... and is "wired for sound".

Who said it was? I'm just saying, the bloke is innocent. Still - think what you like, as you said, his true fans still support him, as do family and friends.

This was once a quality forum....

The same could have been said and can be still be said, in some cases, of Gary Glitter.

Loyalty is one thing but the facts can sometimes be another.
For the record, I think it is disgusting when a person's reputation is damaged by rumour and unsubstantiated accusation. The police go for the easy and high profile "soft" targets. It looks good for their reputation and helps hide their unwillingness to route out the bad apples among the ruling classes to whom they owe their power.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (30 Apr 2016 11.58am)

Not at all.
I'm comparing the attitude of family and friends of someone now know to be guilty before he was found to be guilty.
You rarely find a situation like this where friends and family aren't loyal but they can sometimes be misguided in that loyalty and that was my point.

You deliberately ignored the last part of my post where I said that trashing people's reputation without solid evidence is wrong but if you come on here and claim to be in the know then you must expect a potentially rocky ride.

In my book, Richard is innocent until proven otherwise, end of story.