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Originally posted by nickgusset


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A study by A. Chris Downs and Sheila Harrison from Sex Roles: A Journal of Research found that one out of every 3.8 television commercials has a message about attractiveness in it. They determined that viewers receive roughly 5,260 advertisements related to attractiveness per year (or at least 14 per day). Of these messages, 1,850 of them are specifically about beauty.[5]

In a study published in the Journal of Advertising, Marketing professors Mary Martin and James Gentry noted that images of blonde, thin women are predominant in mass media, and that these characteristics are often portrayed as being ideal.[1] Martin and Gentry also found that advertising can "impose a sense of inadequacy on young women's self-concepts." This is because some girls and young women compare their own physical attractiveness to the physical attractiveness of models in ads. They then experience lowered self-esteem if they do not feel that they look like the models in advertisements.[1]

Today's models weigh 23 percent less than the average woman, while the average model two decades ago weighed eight percent less than the average woman. This current media ideal of thinness is met by only about five percent of the population.[15]

Additionally, a study of Seventeen magazine concluded that the models featured in this popular teen magazine were far less curvy than those portrayed in women's magazines. It was also noted that the hip-to-waist ratio had decreased in these models from 1970 to 1990.[1]

In a study published in Sex Roles: A Journal of Research, psychologists Heidi Posavac, Steven Posavac, and Emil Posavac found that many young women will express dissatisfaction with their bodies, particularly with their body weight, when they are exposed to images of thin models who are slimmer than the average woman.[2]

Expressing similar sentiments, an aspiring young model was quoted as saying, "Deep down I still want to be a supermodel... As long as they're there, screaming at me from the television, glaring at me from the magazines, I'm stuck in the model trap. Hate them first. Then grow to like them. Love them. Emulate them. Die to be them. All the while praying the cycle will come to an end."[1]

Academic researchers Philip Myers Jr. and Frank Biocca concluded, in their study published in the Journal of Communication, that a woman's self-perceived body image can change after watching a half-an-hour of television programming and advertising.[7] Researchers Yoku Yamamiya and Thomas F. Cash concluded through their study that "Even a 5 minute exposure to thin-and-beautiful media images results in a more negative body image state than does exposure to images of neutral object."[16]

Likewise, a study by Stice et al. in the Journal of Abnormal Psychology concluded that there is a direct relationship between the amount of media exposure that a young woman has and the likelihood that she will develop eating disorder symptoms.[17]

Martin and Gentry also found that the mass media "creates and reinforces a preoccupation with physical attractiveness in young women," which can lead to bulimia, anorexia, and opting for cosmetic surgery. She also concluded that, "exposure to ultra-thin models in advertisements and magazine pictures produced depression, stress, guilt, shame, insecurity, and body dissatisfaction in female college students."[1]

In a study published in the Journal of Youth and Adolescence, Paxton et al. found body dissatisfaction to be more prevalent in young women than in young men.[18]

Low self-esteem that stems from teenage advertising can have detrimental effects on teenagers. Seventy-five percent of young women with low self-esteem report engaging in negative activities such as "cutting, bullying, smoking, or drinking when feeling badly about themselves."

Teen promiscuity is another possible effect of low self-esteem.[19]


So an attempt to negate the effects of body image in advertisements has nothing to do with trying to alleviate self esteem and problems such as eating disorders many women face has nothing to do with the above. It's because Khan is Muslim.

Got it in one.

 


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People are posting buff pics of themselves all over Facebook which make me want to go down the gym and eat less. Conversely it's alleged Facebook has intentionally removed pictures of fat people which were deemed offensive.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 13 Jun 16 10.45pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You haven't answered a key question Nick.

1. Where do you draw the line.

2. Most advertising plays on aspirations and uses exaggeration and falsehoods to sell products.

The fact that he has singled out women and their body shape smacks of politics and is not a sensible policy in the interests of health or consumer protection.

I'm off to bed to get my beauty sleep.

1. Have a range of people to advertise things. If blokes want to perv, there are plenty of other places

2. Discovered this when the hot wheels I got for christmas (last year - joking) was s***e compared to what it looked like in the adverts.

3. Is it also politics in other places where such images and use of ultra thin models have been banned?

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I guess we will never know if its the content of the advert or the woman in the bikini that gets it banned,I have can nasty feeling its the latter....Londonstan here we come.

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Edited by nickgusset (13 Jun 2016 10.47pm)

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

I agree to a point, but the size of the models does give unrealistic expectations to most. What with photoshop as well...

Was it dove who had one of the most successful ad campaigns of recent years because they used 'normal' sized people.

Edited by nickgusset (13 Jun 2016 9.58pm)

It's not photoshopped. Why is she not 'normal'?

Pound for pound, excuse the pun, but I assure you that this campaign was far more successful than Dove's.

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

Ah the victim mentality rejoinder, I was waiting for that.

Young people are bombarded with what should be perfect and attainable (through adverts and social media, tv etc with unattainable images). It is bound to have an effect.
We are all different, some, me and you included, can shrug and realise that it's advertising bs. However for many many others, their self image is affected negatively as a result. This is especially damaging for young children who do not have the werewithal to understand the underlying science of advertising. But hey ho, lets spend a fortune on councillors and therapists (who are in short supply and high demand, not forgetting the cost of theraputic treatment to the NHS, individuals or their families), rather than preventing the problem at source.

Edited by nickgusset (13 Jun 2016 10.24pm)

As you mentioned, you and I were bombarded with the advertising spiel, and worked out for ourselves that it was tosh. That was probably down to having an education that taught us that there are winners and losers. Something that the Liberal attitude of today forbids. "Everyone is equal" they teach. Only we're not. Some are better at some things than others. Some are thinner than others, or cleverer, prettier, stronger, more driven, etc. Teach it to the young, and they will accept difference. Like we did. A little disappointment does no harm.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 13 Jun 16 11.03pm

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

As you mentioned, you and I were bombarded with the advertising spiel, and worked out for ourselves that it was tosh. That was probably down to having an education that taught us that there are winners and losers. Something that the Liberal attitude of today forbids. "Everyone is equal" they teach. Only we're not. Some are better at some things than others. Some are thinner than others, or cleverer, prettier, stronger, more driven, etc. Teach it to the young, and they will accept difference. Like we did. A little disappointment does no harm.

Alas, teachers are forced to teach maths and english above everything else. The curriculum is far less richer than it used to be thanks to years of teaching to the test and league tables.
As you say everyone is different so why isn't that represented in advertising?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 13 Jun 16 11.07pm

Originally posted by Stuk

It's not photoshopped. Why is she not 'normal'?

Pound for pound, excuse the pun, but I assure you that this campaign was far more successful than Dove's.

Google Dove advert, do you still agree?

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Google Dove advert, do you still agree?

Google it why? It will tell me all kinds of things about it.

Like your post & link style I mentioned earlier this is laziness on your part.

Make your point rather than telling me to guess.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 13 Jun 16 11.27pm

Originally posted by Stuk

Google it why? It will tell me all kinds of things about it.

Like your post & link style I mentioned earlier this is laziness on your part.

Make your point rather than telling me to guess.

Well basically it's lots of links to ad agencies, trade mags etc saying how succesful the campaign was.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Well basically it's lots of links to ad agencies, trade mags etc saying how succesful the campaign was.

So nothing to refute my claim then? Just that it got 'good' press.

How successful was that campaign in terms of value, pound for pound?More or less than the one in discussion?

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Jun 16 7.11am

Originally posted by Stuk

So nothing to refute my claim then? Just that it got 'good' press.

How successful was that campaign in terms of value, pound for pound?More or less than the one in discussion?

You said the other one was more successful. The onus is on you to prove it

 

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