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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Jun 16 3.36pm

Originally posted by Stuk

That less than 20K campaign made them millions and turned them into a global brand, from a local start-up company of about 1-2 years old. That you can't remember it doesn't matter, the media do and they keep on giving it more and more publicity. The company representatives were on all the major channels being interviewed about it, for free. Sadiq Khan has just given them another enormous free boost by picking on it for no good reason.

She is normal in that she has a perfectly healthy BMI and the ASA confirmed this. If she wasn't in the bikini you'd probably just think, decent looking girl. No surgical enhancements or photoshop required.

This Global nutrition report [Link] I've just read about it also states exactly what I did earlier about not allowing obesity to become the new normal.

Co-chairman Lawrence Haddad said: "We now live in a world where being malnourished is the new normal.
"It is a world that we must all claim as totally unacceptable."

I would say Dove were doing nothing more than extending their market appeal. It's clever but it's not done to champion bigger women, it's to make more money and widen market share.

We might be defining success differently, but I did state a few times that I meant pound for pound. The return on investment.

Fair enough.

 

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 14 Jun 16 3.57pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

I do accept the wider story though that some adverts don't necessarily require a skinny body image. I think the headline example with the nutrition product is one of those that a skinny lady in a bikini might be acceptable for.

Which brings me back to aftershave, more often than not being sold be a bloke in a open shirt or no shirt at all. I guarantee they'll not ban any of these, which means that he's, in short, discriminating.

 


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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Jun 16 11.07pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

Which brings me back to aftershave, more often than not being sold be a bloke in a open shirt or no shirt at all. I guarantee they'll not ban any of these, which means that he's, in short, discriminating.

Not unless It's a picture of Cucking in a Pegging pose!

 


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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 15 Jun 16 8.20am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

To save everyone time...over the next eight years anything Saddiq Khan does it will be wrong because he is a Muslim.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 15 Jun 16 11.08am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

To save everyone time...over the next eight years anything Saddiq Khan does it will be wrong because he is a Muslim.

By the same token. Anything he does will be OK with you because he is a Muslim.... and a lefty.

 

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View johnfirewall's Profile johnfirewall Flag 15 Jun 16 11.37am Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

By the same token. Anything he does will be OK with you because he is a Muslim.... and a lefty.

Nearly there. He's lied because he's a politician, voted in because the other bloke was a Jewish Tory. Everything he does wrong will be ignored because it could've been worse.

 

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View npn's Profile npn Flag Crowborough 15 Jun 16 11.46am Send a Private Message to npn Add npn as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

To save everyone time...over the next eight years anything Saddiq Khan does it will be wrong because he is a Muslim.

What the hell?
What's his religion got to do with a lie in a manifesto pledge?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 15 Jun 16 11.48am

Originally posted by npn

What the hell?
What's his religion got to do with a lie in a manifesto pledge?

Read the earlier posts on this thread. They're saying he banned skinny women adverts in bikinis because he's a muslim.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 15 Jun 16 12.00pm

Originally posted by nickgusset


Some good points. However body image issues lead to other problems such as anxiety / depression.
Agree with your emotional bias in policy making point. However it's still important to have research / evidence to inform policy.
But this is a long way from internet discussions where people act like experts on something they know little about.
I hope that I try and get some background info or use personal experience before entering any fray. (Now I fancy a steak and kidney pie - fray bentos - pies in tins that you cook in boiling water. Can you still get them?)


Edited by nickgusset (14 Jun 2016 12.57pm)

This can be true, there is a correlation, notably between ideology of unattainable body types, and eating disorders. The problem however is more in depth than that as its really about the promotion of a certain type of unattainable beauty that is also dangerous to try to obtain.

What concerns me though is how this has become an ideology among campaigners, who fail to understand that in terms of mental health, its actually a fairly small factor compared to other issues, such as the role of stress in anxiety disorders (including eating disorders, depression etc).

Its not necessarily a truth that 'idealisation' of body types creates eating disorders either, its a correlation, rather than a causal factor. It does seem that in many cases, its a factor, but the problem of anorexia nervousa, also has perceptual delusion in which even when obtaining the 'unattable beauty' the individual knows and see's themselves as fat. There is a disconnect in self worth and perception, as well as a reflection of social values.

Stress is the big environmental factors in mental health - Stress, notably financial worries and working environments. Which tends to be ignored, because its politically inconvenient to point out that the rise in mental health problems in the UK. its also the easiest, at least practically, for government to do something about - as it can control issues like minimum wage, rent control, working hours etc.

I would hazard that the problem of body image is more to do with how society 'views' people who don't conform to an image, rather than those images, and demonises them, rather than the actual images - and that these images serve as reminders of 'the individual's ugly form', rather than a cause.

Symptoms rather than causes, because they're cheap and look like your doing something, rather than dealing with the causes of the problems in society. Its like patching up the broken limbs, rather than fixing the pavement that is causing the people to trip.

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

Read the earlier posts on this thread. They're saying he banned skinny women adverts in bikinis because he's a muslim.

Ah, OK. But does anyone actually believe that? I thought that was all about body image and all that stuff

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 15 Jun 16 12.39pm

Originally posted by npn

Ah, OK. But does anyone actually believe that? I thought that was all about body image and all that stuff

It would appear that they do.

 

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Originally posted by nickgusset

Read the earlier posts on this thread. They're saying he banned skinny women adverts in bikinis because he's a muslim.

For clarity I never said that and don't think it's true. I am just moaning about pandering to sensitive heffers.

 




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